From zwilling at facstaff.wisc.edu Sun Aug 1 23:39:19 1993 From: zwilling at facstaff.wisc.edu (leonard zwilling) Date: Sun, 01 Aug 93 17:39:19 -0600 Subject: e mail address Message-ID: <161227017963.23782.500197746192161548.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Can someone on the list provide me with Wendy Doniger's e mail address. Thanks Leonard Zwilling zwilling at facstaff.wisc.edu Original-Received: from ellis.uchicago.edu by midway.uchicago.edu for indology at liverpool.ac.uk Mon, 12 Dec 94 15:22:39 CST PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Date: Mon, 12 Dec 94 15:22:17 CST From: james nye To: indology at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: Re: INDOLOGISTS IN AMSTERDAM? In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 10 Dec 1994 18:55:48 GMT Message-Id: Allen, Sorry to say I don't know of any Indologists in Amsterdam. Jim > I will have a day's layover in Amersterdam between flights > returning from India on January 20. Are there any Indologists in > Amsterdam who would be interested in showing me the sights? From zwilling at facstaff.wisc.edu Mon Aug 2 02:22:40 1993 From: zwilling at facstaff.wisc.edu (leonard zwilling) Date: Sun, 01 Aug 93 20:22:40 -0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <161227017965.23782.6694058680270518306.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Just wanted to thank all those who provided me with Wendy Doniger's address. Leonard Zwilling From zwilling at facstaff.wisc.edu Mon Aug 2 15:42:34 1993 From: zwilling at facstaff.wisc.edu (leonard zwilling) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 93 09:42:34 -0600 Subject: Request for e mail address Message-ID: <161227017994.23782.4987842575887909709.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Can someone provide me with the email address for Johannes Schneider at the Free University of Berlin? Thanks. L.Zwilling zwilling at facstaff.wisc.edu From sgambhir at sas.upenn.edu Wed Aug 4 20:45:01 1993 From: sgambhir at sas.upenn.edu (sgambhir at sas.upenn.edu) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 93 16:45:01 -0400 Subject: Vegie Burger Message-ID: <161227016018.23782.14249544655398313735.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Subject: Vote YES on BKVeggie Burgers!# > Date: 7/29/93 1:17 PM# ># > CALL 1-800-YES-1-800 AND URGE BURGER KING TO SELL VEGETARIAN BURGERS# ># > Burger King has introduced a vegetarian burger at its Watkins Glen,# > New York restaurant. The burger has been very popular and Burgur King# > will expand it, IF enough people want it. Burger King is now# compiling final statistics on the public's response through its toll# > free comsumer number (listed above.)# ># > Burger King is basing their decision on the '800' number consumer# > calls and THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED AS MANY SUPPORTIVE CALLS AS EXPECTED.# > Your calls now could make all the difference!!!!!!!!!!!# ># > Call Burger King today!! And urge everyone you know to do the same.# > Thank them for introducing the vegetarian burger and tell them that# > you would purchase this product if it were made available in you area.# > Ask them to expand the vegetarian burger to other Burger Kings. Now# > is YOUR chance to see Burger King become the "Vegetarian Burger# > King"!!!!!!!!!# ># > CALL 1-800-YES-1-800# ># > ======================================================================# ># > The procedure after you call is very simple -- just tell the nice# > consumer relations person answering the phone that you would like to# see the vegetarian burger across the nation. Simple -- no name taken,# > free call. Please, everyone call and hopefully it will become# > nationwide!# ># > ====================================================================== Original-Received: from ellis.uchicago.edu by midway.uchicago.edu Thu, 5 Aug 93 11:58:37 CDT PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Date: Thu, 5 Aug 93 11:57:15 CDT From: david carl swain To: indology at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: Re: Vegie Burger In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 04 Aug 93 21:52:24 BST Message-Id: Please keep this sort of thing (i.e. advertisements for fast food chains, etc.)out of our news group. Thanks. From NKATZ at CFRVM.EARN Thu Aug 5 17:51:38 1993 From: NKATZ at CFRVM.EARN (Nathan Katz, University of South Florida) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 93 13:51:38 -0400 Subject: Vegie Burger Message-ID: <161227016020.23782.8293975273123456463.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Please tell the sourpuss who didn't appreciate the veggie burger posting that this member of Indology list was interested to learn about the growing imopact of vegetarians, even in the fast food world. Get a sense of humor, pal! Mangalam --Nathan Katz From jgoda at f47serv.mitre.org Thu Aug 5 19:19:44 1993 From: jgoda at f47serv.mitre.org (jgoda at f47serv.mitre.org) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 93 14:19:44 -0500 Subject: Vegie Burger Message-ID: <161227016022.23782.14508613508111536838.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> > > Please keep this sort of thing (i.e. advertisements for fast food chains, > etc.)out of our news group. Thanks. > > > Why????? I happen to be one who benifited from such an advertisement! I don't think it was an advertisement for a fast food chain, bur rather support for those of us who choose to eat with a conscience. Vegetarianism happens to be a big part of India, and hense does belong in this discussion group. Jignesh Goda, jgoda at vtssi.vt.edu >?From mehta at kc235-2.mgmt.purdue.edu 5 1993 Aug U 14:35:51 Date: 5 Aug 1993 14:35:51 U From: "Mehta, Shailendra" Subject: RE: Vegie Burger I heartily support the move. Shailendra Raj Mehta _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Vote YES on BKVeggie Burgers!# > Date: 7/29/93 1:17 PM# ># > CALL 1-800-YES-1-800 AND URGE BURGER KING TO SELL VEGETARIAN BURGERS# ># > Burger King has introduced a vegetarian burger at its Watkins Glen,# > New York restaurant. The burger has been very popular and Burgur King# > will expand it, IF enough people want it. Burger King is now# compiling final statistics on the public's response through its toll# > free comsumer number (listed above.)# ># > Burger King is basing their decision on the '800' number consumer# > calls and THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED AS MANY SUPPORTIVE CALLS AS EXPECTED.# > Your calls now could make all the difference!!!!!!!!!!!# ># > Call Burger King today!! And urge everyone you know to do the same.# > Thank them for introducing the vegetarian burger and tell them that# > you would purchase this product if it were made available in you area.# > Ask them to expand the vegetarian burger to other Burger Kings. Now# > is YOUR chance to see Burger King become the "Vegetarian Burger# > King"!!!!!!!!!# ># > CALL 1-800-YES-1-800# From jungh001 at staff.tc.umn.edu Sat Aug 7 15:22:52 1993 From: jungh001 at staff.tc.umn.edu (Prof. Indira Y. Junghare) Date: Sat, 07 Aug 93 10:22:52 -0500 Subject: Vegetarian Burger Message-ID: <161227016024.23782.1696886311479040820.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Many of my friends and I would like to see Vegie Burgers in restaurants. From asher001 at staff.tc.umn.edu Wed Aug 11 18:14:08 1993 From: asher001 at staff.tc.umn.edu (Catherine B Asher-1) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 93 13:14:08 -0500 Subject: Allen Thrasher's e-mail address Message-ID: <161227016026.23782.11034769633102020865.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I've seen periodic postings from Allen Thrasher and can't now find his e-mail address. I need to get in touch with him about Sanskrit sources for pre-Mughal gardens. Does anyone on the network have it? Cathy Asher From magier at columbia.edu Wed Aug 11 19:26:38 1993 From: magier at columbia.edu (David Magier) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 93 14:26:38 -0500 Subject: Allen Thrasher's e-mail address Message-ID: <161227016028.23782.5406243964276430423.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Allen is at: thrasher at mail.loc.gov -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ ____________________________ 304 International Affairs /// -- David Magier -- \\\ Columbia University ||| Director, AREA STUDIES ||| New York, N.Y. 10027-7296 ||| S&SE Asia, Latin America, ||| 212-854-8046 / FAX: 212-854-2495 \\\ Mid-East, Slavic, Africa /// --------------------------- magier at columbia.edu From pgm at ukc.ac.uk Sun Aug 15 16:13:44 1993 From: pgm at ukc.ac.uk (pgm at ukc.ac.uk) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 93 17:13:44 +0100 Subject: PATANJALI TRANSLATIONS Message-ID: <161227016030.23782.12701825102200622911.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I'd be very grateful if members of this list could identify what they consider the best translation(s) of the Yoga-Sutras which at least include the romanized sanskrit text and preferably some commentarial material. Peter Moore, University of Kent at Canterbury >?From mehta at kc235-2.mgmt.purdue.edu 16 1993 Aug U 08:47:29 Date: 16 Aug 1993 08:47:29 U From: "Mehta, Shailendra" Subject: RE: PATANJALI TRANSLATIONS Without doubt the best commercially available translation in English is the version by George Feuerstein - called the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. Its best feature is that he gives the root for every word in the text, so that you get a whiff of the deep meaning even if you know no Sanskrit. All the sutras are given in the roman script, which is an advantage for people who do not know Devanagari but a disadvantage for those who do. It is a very scholarly (but readable) translation, along with some (but often idiosyncratic) commentary. Feuerstein specialised in the Yoga Sutras when he was at Manchester University, and the wealth of erudition clearly shows. He has read everything available on the Yoga Sutras in English, German and (most of) Sanskrti, though not in the modern Indian languages. He has had experience of Samadhi himself (though that is not particularly difficult for the more elementary forms), so he has an experiential base as well. Another good translation, which includes a translation of Vyasa's commentary, is the U.C. Santa Barbara Ph.D thesis of Lloyd Pfleuger (1990). He too is well versed in the English and German sources. There are many other translations of course, each with specific virtues. Send me e-mail if you are interested. What I would most like to see, of course, is the a project on CD Rom which gives the Sutra of Patanjali, the gloss of Vyasa and each of the 20 major sub-commetaries thereafter, with the original in Sanskrit and a translation in each case. Shailendra Raj Mehta mehta at mgmt.purdue.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ From: indology at liverpool.ac.uk on Mon, Aug 16, 1993 4:34 AM Subject: PATANJALI TRANSLATIONS To: Members of the list I'd be very grateful if members of this list could identify what they consider the best translation(s) of the Yoga-Sutras which at least include the romanized sanskrit text and preferably some commentarial material. Peter Moore, University of Kent at Canterbury ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by KC235-2.mgmt.purdue.edu with SMTP;16 Aug 1993 04:33:49 U Received: from liverpool.ac.uk by mailhub.liverpool.ac.uk with Local-SMTP (PP) id <02809-0 at mailhub.liverpool.ac.uk>; Sun, 15 Aug 1993 17:26:04 +0100 Message-Id: <"mailhub.li.348:15.07.93.16.16.48"@liverpool.ac.uk> Comment: Indology mailing list Date: Sun, 15 Aug 93 17:26:00 BST Originator: indology at liverpool.ac.uk Reply-To: indology at liverpool.ac.uk Sender: indology at liverpool.ac.uk X-Listserver-Version: 5.5 -- UNIX ListServer by Anastasios Kotsikonas From: pgm at ukc.ac.uk To: Members of the list Subject: PATANJALI TRANSLATIONS >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 16 1993 Aug GMT 16:40:16 Date: 16 Aug 1993 16:40:16 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: CURRENTS ADDRESS Does anyone know the proper address (Listserv) to subscribe to CURRENTS, the South Asian news and culture electronic magazine? Allen From buddha at leland.Stanford.EDU Mon Aug 16 21:57:01 1993 From: buddha at leland.Stanford.EDU (Corvin Russell) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 93 14:57:01 -0700 Subject: PATANJALI TRANSLATIONS Message-ID: <161227016032.23782.13848058597096460885.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I was told that before her death Barbara Miller was working on a translation of the Yoga Sutras. Does anyone know if she completed this work, and if so, is it available? Corvin >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 16 1993 Aug GMT 18:26:18 Date: 16 Aug 1993 18:26:18 GMT From: "MAIL.HOOGCARS" Subject: CURRENTS INFO ------------------------------------ AUTHOR: MAIL.HOOGCARS ------------------------------------ Allen, I subscribed to CURRENTS at the end of July but have not received any mail from it since. Below I'm appending its "welcome" file. Annelies Hoogcarspel, Center for Electronic Texts in the Humanities ***** From: IN%"CURRENTS-Request at PCCVM.BITNET" 26-JUL-1993 16:43:19.81 To: IN%"HOOGCARSPEL at ZODIAC.BITNET" "Annelies Hoogcarspel" CC: Subj: Your subscription to list CURRENTS Dear networker, Your subscription to list CURRENTS (South Asian News and Culture Electronic Magazine) has been accepted. You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF CURRENTS" command to LISTSERV at PCCVM.BITNET. Please note that this command must NOT be sent to the list address (CURRENTS at PCCVM) but to the LISTSERV address (LISTSERV at PCCVM). The amount of acknowledgement you wish to receive from this list upon completion of a mailing operation can be changed by means of a "SET CURRENTS option" command, where "option" may be either "ACK" (mail acknowledgement), "MSGACK" (interactive messages only) or "NOACK". Please note that it is presently possible for other people to determine that you are signed up to the list through the use of the "REVIEW" command, which returns the network address and name of all the subscribers. If you do not wish your name to be available to others in this fashion, just issue a "SET CURRENTS CONCEAL" command. More information on LISTSERV commands can be found in the LISTSERV reference card, which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO REFCARD" command to LISTSERV at PCCVM.BITNET. Virtually, The LISTSERV management ***** Center for Electronic Texts phone: (908) 932-1384 in the Humanities fax: (908) 932-1386 169 College Avenue bitnet: hoogcarspel at zodiac New Brunswick, NJ 08903 internet: hoogcarspel at zodiac.rutgers.edu From pdb1 at columbia.edu Tue Aug 17 14:24:46 1993 From: pdb1 at columbia.edu (Peter D Banos) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 10:24:46 -0400 Subject: yogasutras Message-ID: <161227016035.23782.2567228932811618027.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> My understanding is that Prof Barbara Miller did complete her translation of the yogasutras before her death; even managed to finish going over the proofs with her editor. I don't know when it will be coming out. If you want a guess I'd say later this year or more likely early next year. I can ask around. I believe it's Bantam Press, same as her Bhagavadgita. I've seen drafts of the translation and introduction; like all her work it makes a serious effort to be attentive to the texture, the internal resonances of the original as well as to the literal word-by-word denotation. I would have posted this info sooner but the original request was for translations accompanied by Sanskrit text; as far as I know Prof Miller's will be English only, again like the Gita, though with liberal references to Sanskrit terms in her commentary. -Peter D. Banos Columbia University Libraries From rrocher at sas.upenn.edu Tue Aug 17 19:26:16 1993 From: rrocher at sas.upenn.edu (rrocher at sas.upenn.edu) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 15:26:16 -0400 Subject: videotape on Indian Americans Message-ID: <161227016038.23782.2918189505448079245.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Does anyone on the Indology network have any information on "a video dealing with the American-Asian Indian experience" made by Prem Nagpal? I found a reference to it in the special issue "Deshi-Videshi: South Asian Expatriate Writing and Art" of the Massachusetts Review (winter 88-89, p. 578). Any infornation, such as its exact topic, location, date, and how it can be obtained, would be appreciated. Rosane Rocher rrocher at mail.sas.upenn.edu. Original-Received: from ellis.uchicago.edu by midway.uchicago.edu Tue, 17 Aug 93 15:38:22 CDT PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 15:30:04 CDT From: david carl swain To: indology at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: Guru-diksha Message-Id: Does anyone know when the practice of bestowing a mala or kanthi became a regular part of guru-diksha? I am particularly interested in the Shri Sampradaya and the Kabir Panth, but accounts predating these (i.e. pre-15th Cent.) would also be of interest. David Swain d-swain at midway.uchicago.edu From ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 17:14:03 1993 From: ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk (ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 18:14:03 +0100 Subject: PATANJALI TRANSLATIONS Message-ID: <161227016036.23782.841703063059548325.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> On Aug 16, 11:04pm, Corvin wrote: > I was told that before her death Barbara Miller was working on a translation > of the Yoga Sutras. Does anyone know if she completed this work, and > if so, is it available? I have heard this too; and that she did indeed finish it shortly before her death, and that it should appear before too long. Dominik From ami01 at rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE Thu Aug 19 08:08:37 1993 From: ami01 at rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Thomas Malten) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 93 10:08:37 +0200 Subject: None Message-ID: <161227016040.23782.13639247386615811649.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> INSTITUTE OF INDOLOGY AND TAMIL STUDIES, KOELN UNIVERSITY, GERMANY 19.08.93 ANNOUNCEMENT The Institute of Indology and Tamil Studies has installed an Internet Gopher Information Server at linus.informatik.uni-koeln.de. It can be reached by typing: "gopher linus.informatik.uni-koeln.de" The Gopher is to provide access to the data of the "Thesaurus of Tamil Texts" (TTT), a project by the Institute of Indology and Tamil Studies, Koeln University in collaboration with the Dept.of Indology, South Asia Institute, Heidelberg University. TTT consists of the major classical Tamil texts starting with Sangam literature. All the texts are also indexed cumulatively. The texts on the Gopher Server will be expanded continuously. As of today, 19.08.93, the following materials are available: - Index of Sangam Literature - Complete Ascii Word List of Sangam Literature (200K) - Akananuru text - Preliminary version of Kambaramayana Index We shall install a catalogue of the Tamil Library of this Institute shortly, as well as a Tamil dictionary based on the Madras Tamil Lexicon. * Further information, suggestions and corrections: * ami01 at rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Thomas Malten) -Thomas Malten From sponberg at selway.umt.edu Fri Aug 20 15:56:05 1993 From: sponberg at selway.umt.edu (Alan Sponberg) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 09:56:05 -0600 Subject: Anyone in ..... Message-ID: <161227016046.23782.685549002589827589.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Is there anyone on this list who is in Poona or at BHU? ************************************* Alan Sponberg, Professor of Asian Philosophy and Religion Asian Studies Program, Arts & Sciences Bldg. University of Montana, Missoula, MT 59812 E-mail: sponberg at selway.umt.edu Ph: (406) 243-2803 FAX: (406) 243-4076 >?From THRASHER at MAIL.LOC.GOV 20 1993 Aug GMT 14:30:14 Date: 20 Aug 1993 14:30:14 GMT From: ALLEN W THRASHER Subject: WM. PRUITT'S ADDRESS Does anyone know the current address of William Pruitt, the scholar of Pali and Burmese? The Library of Congress would like to know if he is interested in several Burmese MSS that have surfaced since he did his catalog of Burmese MSS in LOC. I would also like to discuss another collection he might be interested in cataloging. Allen Thrasher Southern Asia Section Library of Congress Washington, DC 20540-4744, USA tel. 202-707-5600 fax 202-707-1724 thrasher at mail.loc.gov From NKATZ at CFRVM.EARN Fri Aug 20 19:41:15 1993 From: NKATZ at CFRVM.EARN (Nathan Katz, University of South Florida) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 15:41:15 -0400 Subject: History of Indian food Message-ID: <161227016049.23782.7727828807464457808.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> There is a recent nice work edited by R. S. Khare, The Eternal Food: Gastronomic Ideas and Experiences of Hindus and Buddhists, State University of New York Press, 1992. >?From netad at uds01.unix.st.it 23 1993 Aug +0200 16:22:52 Date: 23 Aug 1993 16:22:52 +0200 From: netad at uds01.unix.st.it (NetAdvertiser) Subject: The Net ADvertiser Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ***************************************************************************** Are you trying to sell your car, your home, your drums, your whole Jimi Hendrix's bootlegs collection? Are you going to rent your flat at Aspen for the summer time? Or maybe you are looking for a car, or for a new job, or for friends to spend all the nights watching Peter Greenaways's movies or playing Diplomacy. 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For any information, subscription and submission write to: netad at uds01.unix.st.it. ***************************************************************************** From Devendra.Singh at si.sintef.no Fri Aug 20 16:27:40 1993 From: Devendra.Singh at si.sintef.no (Devendra.Singh at si.sintef.no) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 16:27:40 +0000 Subject: Anyone in Lucknow, Allahabad or Delhi Message-ID: <161227016042.23782.16421396076468874537.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Just wanted to know if there is any one on the net from the above stated places. If yes, please contact. devendra.singh at si.sintef.no From Devendra.Singh at si.sintef.no Fri Aug 20 16:31:35 1993 From: Devendra.Singh at si.sintef.no (Devendra.Singh at si.sintef.no) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 16:31:35 +0000 Subject: History of Indian food Message-ID: <161227016044.23782.15914670232957495813.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I want some information on the history of development of Indian food. Is there any book related to such a topic. Devendra Singh From aklujkar at unixg.ubc.ca Mon Aug 23 21:14:18 1993 From: aklujkar at unixg.ubc.ca (aklujkar at unixg.ubc.ca) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 93 14:14:18 -0700 Subject: History of Indian food Message-ID: <161227016051.23782.2316769630863868877.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Reference: The recent request from Devendra.Singh at si.sintef.no for information on the history of development of Indian food. There are several articles written by Parashuram Krishna Gode on the history of individual food items. These are included in the five volumes of his collected articles (some published by the Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, Bombay, and some by the Vishveshvaranand Indological Research Institute, Hoshiarpur). Professor Wilhelm Rau, Indisch-ostasiatisches Seminar, Philipps Universitaet, 3550 Marburg, Federal Republic of Germany, should be able to provide much information on the Sanskrit and Mixed-Sanskrit manuals on food making. From muthu at lecter.Stanford.EDU Thu Aug 26 00:55:13 1993 From: muthu at lecter.Stanford.EDU (muthu at lecter.Stanford.EDU) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 17:55:13 -0700 Subject: Tamil fonts Message-ID: <161227016053.23782.5298197501115274116.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Hi, I am looking for Tamil fonts for IBM compatible PCs (preferably for Windows 3.0 or higher). A friend of mine suggested I contact you folks. If anyone has information on where I can get the fonts (ftp sites?), please let me know. Thanks. -- Muthu From stampe at uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Fri Aug 27 06:41:26 1993 From: stampe at uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (stampe at uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 06:41:26 +0000 Subject: India office OPAC? Message-ID: <161227016062.23782.18434518383361184977.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Is the catalog of the India Office in London accessible online? David Stampe , Dept. of Linguistics, Univ. of Hawaii/Manoa, Honolulu HI 96822 From ridgeway at blackbox.hacc.washington.edu Fri Aug 27 15:32:50 1993 From: ridgeway at blackbox.hacc.washington.edu (Thomas B. Ridgeway) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 08:32:50 -0700 Subject: Tamil fonts Message-ID: <161227016054.23782.91775068513557422.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> > > > > Hi, I am looking for Tamil fonts for IBM compatible PCs (preferably > for Windows 3.0 or higher). A friend of mine suggested I contact you > folks. If anyone has information on where I can get the fonts (ftp > sites?), please let me know. Thanks. > > -- Muthu-- There is a Postscript font called Palladam which is available on several archives, including ftp.cica.indiana.edu unless I am mistaken. This would not be of any use unless you have ATM or a way to convert it to TrueType. Some possibility exists that others may become available; I would monitor the Indology list for any announcements of same. Tom From ahale at vax.oxford.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 15:56:19 1993 From: ahale at vax.oxford.ac.uk (ahale at vax.oxford.ac.uk) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 16:56:19 +0100 Subject: OPACS and networks in India Message-ID: <161227016056.23782.4505241745533590804.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Are there any Online Public Access Catalogues in Indian universities and research centres that it is possible to access? Does anyone know of any plans in India to provide access to any such services through the Internet? From srlclark at liverpool.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 17:10:14 1993 From: srlclark at liverpool.ac.uk (Stephen Clark) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:10:14 +0000 Subject: British philosophers in India Message-ID: <161227016058.23782.558566389934748877.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> A small group of British philosophers, three from Liverpool University (home of indology etc), are visiting Jaipur next week for the third Anglo-Indian Convivium, designed to bring British and Indian philosophers together. If anyone is interested I'll post some comments on the experience when we get back. Stephen Clark Liverpool University UK From rsa002 at central1.lancaster.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 18:13:36 1993 From: rsa002 at central1.lancaster.ac.uk (Prof J Clayton) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 19:13:36 +0100 Subject: British philosophers in India Message-ID: <161227016060.23782.6314152249626107766.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Yes, please send further particulars. Professor John Clayton Lancaster University J.Clayton at lancaster.ac.uk From dran at cs.albany.edu Tue Aug 31 14:52:26 1993 From: dran at cs.albany.edu (dran at cs.albany.edu) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 10:52:26 -0400 Subject: India office OPAC? Message-ID: <161227016074.23782.17758368038884398998.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Dominik: I saw your posting on the BL. > I can sit in my office and consult LC, but not the BL which is about two hundred How do you do this? Or access other libraries? Is there any documentation about accessing various libraries? Thanks, Narendran From rcohen at sas.upenn.edu Tue Aug 31 15:05:29 1993 From: rcohen at sas.upenn.edu (rcohen at sas.upenn.edu) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 11:05:29 -0400 Subject: Death of Stella Kramrisch Message-ID: <161227016072.23782.11292237897454334239.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> I report with regret that Professor Stella Kramrisch, doyenne of the history of Indian art, passed away this morning in Philadelphia. When more information is known concerning memorial services, etc. I will post it. -- Richard J. Cohen, Assistant Director, South Asia Regional Studies University of Pennsylvania, 820 Williams Hall, Univ. of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 19104-6305, Tel: 215-898-7475; Fax: 215-573-2138 E-mail: rcohen at mail.sas.upenn.edu From anandi at emr.ca Tue Aug 31 15:46:12 1993 From: anandi at emr.ca (anandi at emr.ca) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 11:46:12 -0400 Subject: India office OPAC? Message-ID: <161227016078.23782.15052786892783438728.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> You can also telnet into MARVEL.LOC.GOV and get connected directly into the Library of Congress. This is a lot more complete service than DRA.COM Login: marvel Atulesh Nandi --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Earlier today I said, > > > > I can sit in my office and consult LC, > > and naturally I have been asked how: > > > How do you do this? Or access other libraries? Is there any > > documentation about accessing various libraries? > > The short answer is that from any machine connected to the Internet, > and having the program "telnet", you issue the command > > telnet dra.com > > and you should then get access to the LC catalogue. > > There are hundreds of other libraries, though, and the easiest way of > consulting them is by using a program called Gopher. > > The best way to find out more is to buy and read Ed Krol's superb book > "The Whole Internet: User's Guide and Catalog" (Sebasapol, CA: > O'Reilly & Assoc., 1992). ISBN 1-56592-025-2. It explains > *everything* and is very well written. > > Best wishes, > Dominik > > > From D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 12:44:18 1993 From: D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 12:44:18 +0000 Subject: Anyone in ..... Message-ID: <161227016064.23782.12290207869696415616.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> In message Fri, 20 Aug 93 17:05:38 BST, Alan Sponberg writes: > Is there anyone on this list who is in Poona or at BHU? I recently had a message from Dr K. Suryanarayan who is a vaiyakarana and computer scientist from Poona Univ., but currently working at JNU in Delhi. His email address is c/o Mr P. K. Sharma . Dominik -- Dominik Wujastyk Phone (and voice messages): +44 71 611 8467 From D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 15:08:30 1993 From: D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 15:08:30 +0000 Subject: India office OPAC? Message-ID: <161227016068.23782.15459348566068443786.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> In message Fri, 27 Aug 93 19:33:25 BST, stampe at uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu writes: > Is the catalog of the India Office in London accessible online? > > David Stampe , > Dept. of Linguistics, Univ. of Hawaii/Manoa, Honolulu HI 96822 > No. Well, actually the British Library catalogue as a whole is available, and the IO may be part of it by now. The BL service is called "Blaise" and costs MONEY. I consider this to be an ongoing public scandal of serious magnitude. Almost a hundred British university libraries are available over JANET free of charge, and many times that number of US libraries are available free by ftp, including the Library of Congress itself. I can sit in my office and consult LC, but not the BL which is about two hundred yards away from where I sit. This is especially galling since I and the rest of the British taxpayers are the sole supporters of the BL. On the one hand, it angers me that the BL continues to charge for its service, and on the other it saddens me since this is already leading to the marginalization of the BL's resources. And this is bound to continue and intensify. The BL will just drop out of the scholarly scene; it is already very hard indeed to get physical access. If library catalogues and collections of the scale of LC, Oxford, Cambridge, Sussex, SOAS, and many of the German collections are freely available, who is going to care two hoots about the BL? Dominik -- Dominik Wujastyk Phone (and voice messages): +44 71 611 8467 From D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 15:09:29 1993 From: D.Wujastyk at ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 15:09:29 +0000 Subject: OPACS and networks in India Message-ID: <161227016070.23782.17131671140615771563.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> In message Fri, 27 Aug 93 17:08:26 BST, ahale at vax.oxford.ac.uk writes: > Are there any Online Public Access Catalogues in Indian universities and > research centres that it is possible to access? > Does anyone know of any plans in India to provide access to any such > services through the Internet? > John S. Quarterman's book "The Matrix: computer networks and conferencing systems worldwide" (Digital PREss, 1990; ISBN 1-55558-033-5) has a section on networks in South Asia (chapter 17). You can get more up-to-date information using the "whois" command in Unix. I append info on this, and on the result of using it to get info. on sites in Delhi. To answer the question, though: no, not to my knowledge. Dominik === whois.1 ======================================================= Online Email directory of ERNET users in India (maintained on sangam) The whois program examines a central database of registered users and, based on a user supplied search key, looks up and displays information about all selected users. Display is always truncated to fifty lines. The command whois -h sangam.ncst.ernet.in help gets you a copy of this document. SEARCH KEYS All searches are case-insensitive. When searching the database with a name key, you can use a few characters of the name instead of the entire word. This is handy if you are not sure of the exact spelling. A search key consists of a single word or group of words contained in (double) quotes (" ... "). The single word form matches city name. whois -h sangam.ncst.ernet.in bombay (Lists ernet sites in Bombay) whois -h sangam.ncst.ernet.in mad (All the Madras sites !) Queries using the form key at site will match user's login name or full name as in /etc/passwd file. whois -h sangam.ncst.ernet.in joshi at shakti (All users on shakti matching the pattern 'joshi') The use of the symbol % in front of a name limits the search to the field containing the login name. Eg: whois -h sangam.ncst.ernet.in %sadanand at shakti (only logins starting with 'sadanand' at shakti) This will fail to match P Sadanandan, whose login name is ps Directory outputs associate a mailid with each user, for further enquiry, to retrieve full postal address, phone and Fax numbers. For example, sh287 is the mailid of PKX Thomas as shown below. (sh287) thomas:(Mr. P.K.X. Thomas,NCST,,) Use !mailid for getting detailed information. whois -h sangam.ncst.ernet.in !sh287 (Gives postal address, Phone & Fax numbers of Thomas) (C-Shell users must use \! instead of !) ====Delhi "whois" results: ============================================ Computer network sites in Delhi as of June 1993: Node_name Address ============================================================================ aiims.ernet.in Biotech Dept. : All India Inst.of Med. Sciences : Delhi cdotd.ernet.in Centre for Development of Telematics : 9th Floor, Akbar Bhawan, Chanakyapuri : New Delhi - 110 021 cmetd.ernet.in Centre for Materials Technology cris.ernet.in Centre for Railway Information Systems ignca.ernet.in Indira Gandhi National Centre for Arts iitd.ernet.in Indian Institute of Technology insa.ernet.in Indian National Science Academy insdoc Indian National Scientific Documentation Centre isid.ernet.in Indian Statistical Institute : Delhi isidev.ernet.in Institute for Studies in Industrial Development jnuniv.ernet.in Jawaharlal Nehru University : New Mehrauli Road : New Delhi - 110 067 netearth.ernet.in Dept of Computer Science & Engg : Indian Institute of Technology : Hauz Khas, New Delhi - 110 016 nifm National Institute for Financial Management nmc National Microelectronics Council, DoE, New Delhi nsc Nuclear Science Centre pranjan.ernet.in Controller General of Accounts seco.ernet.in SECO & CG Division, Department of Electronics tifac.ernet.in Technology Information, Forecasting and Assessment Council : vikram.ernet.in Department of Electronics : A-Block, CGO Complex : Lodi Road, New Delhi - 110 003 wapcos.ernet.in Water and Power Consultancy Ltd. : -- Dominik Wujastyk Phone (and voice messages): +44 71 611 8467 From JAPAN at ICNUCEVM.CNUCE.CNR.IT Tue Aug 31 16:00:41 1993 From: JAPAN at ICNUCEVM.CNUCE.CNR.IT (antonino polizzi) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 16:00:41 +0000 Subject: Devanagari Shareware Editor Message-ID: <161227016066.23782.12862288832890298474.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Hi, I am an orientalist and I am new to this list. Even if my main interest is japanese culture indeed, actually my linguistic interest often takes me beyond the restricted Rising Sun area. Probably my question is a FAQ and I am sorry to annoy all of you with this ususal matter. Do you know any shareware editor or wordprocessor for MS-DOS 6.0 or Windows 3.1 by which I can write in devanagari? Thank you Tony Polizzi japan at vm.cnuce.cnr.it From ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 15:16:07 1993 From: ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk (ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 16:16:07 +0100 Subject: India office OPAC? Message-ID: <161227016076.23782.11508664045361675723.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> Earlier today I said, > > I can sit in my office and consult LC, and naturally I have been asked how: > How do you do this? Or access other libraries? Is there any > documentation about accessing various libraries? The short answer is that from any machine connected to the Internet, and having the program "telnet", you issue the command telnet dra.com and you should then get access to the LC catalogue. There are hundreds of other libraries, though, and the easiest way of consulting them is by using a program called Gopher. The best way to find out more is to buy and read Ed Krol's superb book "The Whole Internet: User's Guide and Catalog" (Sebasapol, CA: O'Reilly & Assoc., 1992). ISBN 1-56592-025-2. It explains *everything* and is very well written. Best wishes, Dominik >?From mehta at kc235-2.mgmt.purdue.edu 31 1993 Aug U 10:26:42 Date: 31 Aug 1993 10:26:42 U From: "Mehta, Shailendra" Subject: RE: India office OPAC? Dominik writes: No. Well, actually the British Library catalogue as a whole is available, and the IO may be part of it by now. The BL service is called "Blaise" and costs MONEY. I consider this to be an ongoing public scandal of serious magnitude. Almost a hundred British university libraries are available over JANET free of charge ____________________________________ Can someone tell me how to access the British library catalogues via INTERNET? Actually, their availability comes as a (pleasant) surprise, since ten years ago, the Bodleian for example, did not even have a proper card catalogue. I routinely dial into the various American library catalogues, of course. Shailendra Raj Mehta mehta at mgmt.purdue.edu Original-Received: from ellis.uchicago.edu by midway.uchicago.edu Tue, 31 Aug 93 10:43:14 CDT PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 10:42:31 CDT From: james nye To: indology at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: Re: India office OPAC? In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 31 Aug 93 16:33:43 BST Message-Id: In addition to consulting the Data Research version of the LC catalog, as Dominik suggests, it is also now possible to log in to the LC system with the command: telnet locis.loc.gov This gives access to a much wider array of resources at LC. Jim Original-Received: from cc:Mail by ccmail-smtp.si.sintef.no id AA746844418 Tue, 31 Aug 93 17:46:58 MET PP-warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 17:46:58 MET From: Devendra.Singh at si.sintef.no Message-Id: <9307317468.AA746844418 at ccmail-smtp.si.sintef.no> To: indology at liverpool.ac.uk Subject: Re: India office OPAC? Dominik: I saw your posting on the BL. > I can sit in my office and consult LC, but not the BL which is about two hundred I would be very much interested if you could please let us know about this possibility on this net. kind regards Devendra Singh From ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 16:27:10 1993 From: ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk (ucgadkw at ucl.ac.uk) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 17:27:10 +0100 Subject: India office OPAC? Message-ID: <161227016080.23782.10514041030276863037.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> On Aug 31, 4:47pm, Shailendra wrote: > ... since ten years > ago, the Bodleian for example, did not even have a proper card catalogue. I > routinely dial into the various American library catalogues, of course. That's not quite fair to the Bod. The Bod has a venerable set of catalogues going back to the time of Thomas, including the Indian Institute. Finding something was always rather complicated, since some catalogues were cards, others books, and so forth. But it was (mostly) catalogued, if you had the patience and help from staff. Dominik From banks at vax.oxford.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 17:55:54 1993 From: banks at vax.oxford.ac.uk (banks at vax.oxford.ac.uk) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 17:55:54 +0000 Subject: India office OPAC? Message-ID: <161227016082.23782.7239751736378648189.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> >Dominik: I saw your posting on the BL. > >> I can sit in my office and consult LC, but not the BL which is about two >>hundred > >I would be very much interested if you could please let us know about this >possibility on this net. > >kind regards >Devendra Singh and: >Can someone tell me how to access the British library catalogues via INTERNET? >Actually, their availability comes as a (pleasant) surprise, since ten years >ago, the Bodleian for example, did not even have a proper card catalogue. I >routinely dial into the various American library catalogues, of course. >Shailendra Raj Mehta >mehta at mgmt.purdue.edu There is a very useful (and very long) document detailing precise instructions on how to connect to over 100 on-line libraries, mostly in the US, but also including many in the UK, including Bodley. The document is called "Internet-Accessible Library Catalogs and Databases" and is coauthored by Dr.Art St. George of the University of New Mexico and Dr.Ron Larsen of the University of Maryland. To quote from a recent announcement: ---------------------------------- To obtain the revised file [ie. the latest version], send mail or a command to LISTSERV at UNMVM. The body of the mail or command should say GET INTERNET LIBRARY. This will retrieve the ascii version of the file. The Postscript version is obtained by using the command GET LIBRARY PS. Because of the size of the PS file, some users may experience difficulties in retrieving it. Both the ascii and PS files are also obtainable via anonymous FTP and from two sites. From NIC.CERF.NET, cd to cerfnet/cefnet_info and retrieve files called: internet-accessible-catalog-nov90-general.ps (Postscript) internet-accessible-catalog-nov90.txt (ascii) You can also FTP to ARIEL.UNM.EDU and cd to library. The files are called: library.ps (Postscript) internet.library (ascii) It is possible to automatically receive updated versions of this file. For more information, send mail or a command to your nearest Listserv node or, only as a last resort, to Listserv at unmvm. The body of the mail or the command should say INFO AFD. You will be sent a file called Listafd Memo which describes the automatic file distribution feature of the Revised Listserv. As always, if you have any questions about the List or suggestions for additions or corrections, please send mail to stgeorge at unmb or stgeorge at bootes.unm.edu. -------------------------- I might add, that for those of you with access to a gopher server, I searched 'gopherspace' with the key words 'library catalogs' (NB US spelling of catalogue) and turned up dozens of search facilities, announcements (including the one above), direct access to on-line catalogues etc. Of them all I have only ever seen and used St George and Larsen's document, but that contains enough information to keep me going for the next few years! I would also endorse Dominik's endorsement of Ed Krol's book ("The Whole Internet"); Krol explains clearly and simply the arcane mysteries of gopher, WAIS, ftp, email, and much more in a way that any humanities scholar should find easy to understand. A word of warning though: he assumes one starts one's electronic journeys from a unix machine and if that is not your case you may need to find someone who understands your system to get you started. Marcus Banks, Oxford From banks at vax.oxford.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 18:03:18 1993 From: banks at vax.oxford.ac.uk (banks at vax.oxford.ac.uk) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 18:03:18 +0000 Subject: India office OPAC? Message-ID: <161227016084.23782.13143643658064437648.generated@prod2.harmonylists.io> >> ... since ten years >> ago, the Bodleian for example, did not even have a proper card catalogue. I >> routinely dial into the various American library catalogues, of course. > >That's not quite fair to the Bod. [...] >Dominik > But a word of warning: the Bodley on-line catalogue does *not* include all the holdings. As with many other British libraries now going on-line, retrospective catalogue conversion is a long, slow and expensive process. The lack of an entry does not mean the book is not in the library (of course this is only really relevant to those who wish to use the library in person). Marcus Banks, Oxford >?From Tkatschow at ritslab.educ.ubc.ca 31 1993 Aug PST 13:29:50 Date: 31 Aug 1993 13:29:50 PST From: Tkatschow at ritslab.educ.ubc.ca Subject: RE: text of Rasaratnakara To Dominik Wujastyk, RE: The Sanskrit Manuscript of the Rasaratnakara Dominik, I don't know whether you remember me from the Indian Studies conference in Wisconsin about five years ago. But I was the young scholar who had lunch with you and discussed Nagarjuna's text of the Rasaratnakara and its relationship to tantra and alchemy. I would like to know if you edited and translated the entire text, and if so where and how can I get a copy of these materials. Also I would like to know if I could obtain a copy of the text text itself. The one you had at the time of the conference. Please let me know id this is possible and how much it will cost and where where to contact you by mail. Thankyou. Dwight Tkatschow Ritsumeikan Institute Vancouver, B.C., Canada >?From mehta at kc235-2.mgmt.purdue.edu 31 1993 Aug U 15:34:58 Date: 31 Aug 1993 15:34:58 U From: "Mehta, Shailendra" Subject: RE: India office OPAC? Dominik wrote, >That's not quite fair to the Bod. The Bod has a venerable set of >catalogues going back to the time of Thomas, including the Indian >Institute. Finding something was always rather complicated, since >some catalogues were cards, others books, and so forth. But it was >(mostly) catalogued, if you had the patience and help from staff. I am rather fond of the Bod. (I even used to have a wonderful etching of it in my study -- now gifted to a young friend of mine, who took a fancy to it when he was ten years of age.) But it was indeed rather odd that its references were organized largely by pasting labels in books. It boggled the mind. (The amount of repasting would increase exponentially with the size of the collection.) I wonder why they *ever* used books ? But then I never understood why my friends had to sign copyright forms for 14th century material either. Perhaps someone can explain. That, in any case, was what I had in mind. The India Insititue of course was another matter altogether. It had a card catalogue, for one thing. I have memories of many pleasant hours spent there.