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Professor-researcher recruitment campaign EPHE

JE
Jan E.M. Houben
Mon, Feb 15, 2021 11:48 AM

Dear All,
The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique
des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some
of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences
religieuses could in theory accommodate indological
(indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications.
Please explore at
https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021
A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.
Best regards,
Jan Houben

Jan E.M. Houben

Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology

Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite

École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)

*Sciences historiques et philologiques *

Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)

johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu

https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben

https://www.classicalindia.info https://www.classicalindia.info

LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée: construction,
transmission

et transformations d'un savoir scientifique

Dear All, The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences religieuses *could* in theory accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications. Please explore at https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. Best regards, Jan Houben -- *Jan E.M. Houben* Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) *Sciences historiques et philologiques * Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu <johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu>* *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben <https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben>* *https://www.classicalindia.info* <https://www.classicalindia.info> LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- *L'Inde Classique* augmentée: construction, transmission et transformations d'un savoir scientifique
JS
Jonathan Silk
Mon, Feb 15, 2021 11:56 AM

Dear Jan

Many thanks,  but unfortunately the link is to a:
Ressource non trouvée

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jan E.M. Houben jemhouben@gmail.com
wrote:

Dear All,
The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique
des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some
of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences
religieuses could in theory accommodate indological
(indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications.
Please explore at

https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021
A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.
Best regards,
Jan Houben

Jan E.M. Houben

Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology

Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite

École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)

*Sciences historiques et philologiques *

Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)

johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu

https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben

https://www.classicalindia.info https://www.classicalindia.info

LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée: construction,
transmission

et transformations d'un savoir scientifique


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Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b
2311 BZ Leiden
The Netherlands

website: www.OpenPhilology.eu
copies of my publications may be found at
https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk

Dear Jan Many thanks, but unfortunately the link is to a: Ressource non trouvée On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique > des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. > This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some > of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences > religieuses *could* in theory accommodate indological > (indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications. > Please explore at > > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 > A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. > Best regards, > Jan Houben > -- > > *Jan E.M. Houben* > > Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* > > École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) > > *Sciences historiques et philologiques * > > Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) > > *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu <johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu>* > > *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > <https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben>* > > *https://www.classicalindia.info* <https://www.classicalindia.info> > > LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- *L'Inde Classique* augmentée: construction, > transmission > > et transformations d'un savoir scientifique > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) -- J. Silk Leiden University Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b 2311 BZ Leiden The Netherlands website: www.OpenPhilology.eu copies of my publications may be found at https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk
JE
Jan E.M. Houben
Mon, Feb 15, 2021 12:12 PM

Dear Jonathan,
Hope you have survived the polar cold in the Netherlands so far...
Somehow, the syllable "en" (in "enseignants") had disappeared in the link.
The correct link is:
https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-enseignants-chercheurs-2021
In the right hand margin you will see a section "Télécharger", with
downloadable files of which the last two contain positions potentially
relevant to readers of the List: one entitled SHP: Profils des postes et
dossiers de candidature and the other SR:  Profils des postes et dossiers
de candidature. As for the profiles advertised, they have been translated
into English but mostly very clumsily, it is better to read them in French
and otherwise even Google Translate can provide better translations...
All best,
Jan

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 12:57, Jonathan Silk kauzeya@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Jan

Many thanks,  but unfortunately the link is to a:
Ressource non trouvée

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jan E.M. Houben jemhouben@gmail.com
wrote:

Dear All,
The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique
des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some
of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences
religieuses could in theory accommodate indological
(indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications.
Please explore at

https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021
A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.
Best regards,
Jan Houben

Jan E.M. Houben

Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology

Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite

École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)

*Sciences historiques et philologiques *

Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)

johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu

https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben

https://www.classicalindia.info https://www.classicalindia.info

LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée: construction,
transmission

et transformations d'un savoir scientifique


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J. Silk
Leiden University
Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS
Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b
2311 BZ Leiden
The Netherlands

website: www.OpenPhilology.eu
copies of my publications may be found at
https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk

--

Jan E.M. Houben

Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology

Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite

École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)

*Sciences historiques et philologiques *

Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)

johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu

https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben

https://www.classicalindia.info https://www.classicalindia.info

LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée: construction,
transmission

et transformations d'un savoir scientifique

Dear Jonathan, Hope you have survived the polar cold in the Netherlands so far... Somehow, the syllable "en" (in "enseignants") had disappeared in the link. The correct link is: https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-enseignants-chercheurs-2021 In the right hand margin you will see a section "Télécharger", with downloadable files of which the last two contain positions potentially relevant to readers of the List: one entitled SHP: Profils des postes et dossiers de candidature and the other SR: Profils des postes et dossiers de candidature. As for the profiles advertised, they have been translated into English but mostly very clumsily, it is better to read them in French and otherwise even Google Translate can provide better translations... All best, Jan On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 12:57, Jonathan Silk <kauzeya@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Jan > > Many thanks, but unfortunately the link is to a: > Ressource non trouvée > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear All, >> The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique >> des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. >> This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some >> of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences >> religieuses *could* in theory accommodate indological >> (indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications. >> Please explore at >> >> https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 >> A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. >> Best regards, >> Jan Houben >> -- >> >> *Jan E.M. Houben* >> >> Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology >> >> *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* >> >> École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) >> >> *Sciences historiques et philologiques * >> >> Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) >> >> *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu <johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu>* >> >> *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben >> <https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben>* >> >> *https://www.classicalindia.info* <https://www.classicalindia.info> >> >> LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- *L'Inde Classique* augmentée: construction, >> transmission >> >> et transformations d'un savoir scientifique >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info >> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info >> indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) > > > > -- > J. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > The Netherlands > > website: www.OpenPhilology.eu > copies of my publications may be found at > https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk > -- *Jan E.M. Houben* Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) *Sciences historiques et philologiques * Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu <johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu>* *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben <https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben>* *https://www.classicalindia.info* <https://www.classicalindia.info> LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- *L'Inde Classique* augmentée: construction, transmission et transformations d'un savoir scientifique
PW
Peter Wyzlic
Mon, Feb 15, 2021 12:12 PM

The Link must be: <https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-enseignants-chercheurs-2021 https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-enseignants-chercheurs-2021>, there is missing an „en“ before „seignants“.

All the best
Peter Wyzlic

Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:

Von: Jonathan Silk kauzeya@gmail.com
Betreff: [INDOLOGY] Re: Professor-researcher recruitment campaign EPHE
Datum: 15. Februar 2021 um 12:56:44 MEZ
An: "Jan E.M. Houben" jemhouben@gmail.com
Kopie: Indology indology@list.indology.info

Dear Jan

Many thanks,  but unfortunately the link is to a:
Ressource non trouvée

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com mailto:jemhouben@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences religieuses could in theory accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications.
Please explore at
https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021
A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.
Best regards,
Jan Houben

Jan E.M. Houben
Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology
Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite
École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)
Sciences historiques et philologiques
Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)
johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu mailto:johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu
https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
https://www.classicalindia.info https://www.classicalindia.info/
LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée: construction, transmission
et transformations d'un savoir scientifique


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2311 BZ Leiden
The Netherlands

website: www.OpenPhilology.eu http://www.openphilology.eu/
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The Link must be: <https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-enseignants-chercheurs-2021 <https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-enseignants-chercheurs-2021>>, there is missing an „en“ before „seignants“. All the best Peter Wyzlic > Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht: > > Von: Jonathan Silk <kauzeya@gmail.com> > Betreff: [INDOLOGY] Re: Professor-researcher recruitment campaign EPHE > Datum: 15. Februar 2021 um 12:56:44 MEZ > An: "Jan E.M. Houben" <jemhouben@gmail.com> > Kopie: Indology <indology@list.indology.info> > > Dear Jan > > Many thanks, but unfortunately the link is to a: > Ressource non trouvée > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com <mailto:jemhouben@gmail.com>> wrote: > Dear All, > The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. > This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences religieuses *could* in theory accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications. > Please explore at > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 <https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021> > A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. > Best regards, > Jan Houben > -- > Jan E.M. Houben > Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology > Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite > École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) > Sciences historiques et philologiques > Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) > johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu <mailto:johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu> > https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben <https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben> > https://www.classicalindia.info <https://www.classicalindia.info/> > LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée: construction, transmission > et transformations d'un savoir scientifique > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info> > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info <mailto:indology-leave@list.indology.info> > indology-owner@list.indology.info <mailto:indology-owner@list.indology.info> (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info <http://listinfo.indology.info/> (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) > > > -- > J. Silk > Leiden University > Leiden University Institute for Area Studies, LIAS > Matthias de Vrieshof 3, Room 0.05b > 2311 BZ Leiden > The Netherlands > > website: www.OpenPhilology.eu <http://www.openphilology.eu/> > copies of my publications may be found at > https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk <https://leidenuniv.academia.edu/JASilk> > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) -- Institut für Orient- und Asienwissenschaften Bibliothek Universität Bonn Brühler Straße 7 53119 Bonn
DW
Dominik Wujastyk
Thu, Feb 18, 2021 4:54 PM

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben jemhouben@gmail.com wrote:

Dear All,
The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique
des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some
of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences
religieuses could in theory accommodate indological
(indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications.
Please explore at

https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021
A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.

"of course"?  No, this is not obvious or normal.  Many countries hire
professors on the understanding that if they don't know the indigenous
language they will commit to learning it within the first two years of
tenure.  As far as I am aware, that is normal international practice.

Best,
Dominik

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique > des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. > This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some > of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences > religieuses *could* in theory accommodate indological > (indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications. > Please explore at > > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 > A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. > > "of course"? No, this is not obvious or normal. Many countries hire professors on the understanding that if they don't know the indigenous language they will commit to learning it within the first two years of tenure. As far as I am aware, that is normal international practice. Best, Dominik
JE
Jan E.M. Houben
Thu, Feb 18, 2021 10:53 PM

sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et linguistique, la
science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de la richesse
qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ...
(= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity, science
and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the richness which has been
traditionally theirs ...)

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk wujastyk@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben jemhouben@gmail.com wrote:

Dear All,
The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique
des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some
of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences
religieuses could in theory accommodate indological
(indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications.
Please explore at

https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021
A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.

"of course"?  No, this is not obvious or normal.  Many countries hire
professors on the understanding that if they don't know the indigenous
language they will commit to learning it within the first two years of
tenure.  As far as I am aware, that is normal international practice.

Best,
Dominik

--

Jan E.M. Houben

Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology

Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite

École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)

*Sciences historiques et philologiques *

Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)

johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu

https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben

https://www.classicalindia.info https://www.classicalindia.info

LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée: construction,
transmission

et transformations d'un savoir scientifique

sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et linguistique, la science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de la richesse qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ... (= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity, science and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the richness which has been traditionally theirs ...) On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École Pratique >> des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. >> This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" but some >> of the positions in Sciences historiques et philologiques or Sciences >> religieuses *could* in theory accommodate indological >> (indological-linguistic) or buddhological applications. >> Please explore at >> >> https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 >> A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. >> >> > "of course"? No, this is not obvious or normal. Many countries hire > professors on the understanding that if they don't know the indigenous > language they will commit to learning it within the first two years of > tenure. As far as I am aware, that is normal international practice. > > Best, > Dominik > -- *Jan E.M. Houben* Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology *Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite* École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) *Sciences historiques et philologiques * Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) *johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu <johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu>* *https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben <https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben>* *https://www.classicalindia.info* <https://www.classicalindia.info> LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- *L'Inde Classique* augmentée: construction, transmission et transformations d'un savoir scientifique
JC
Jean-Luc Chevillard
Fri, Feb 19, 2021 7:50 AM

«Canada is also home to many indigenous languages. Taken together, these
are spoken by less than one percent of the population. About 0.6%
Canadians (or 200,725 people) report an Indigenous language as their
mother tongue»

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Canada

Languages of Canada
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On 18/02/2021 23:53, Jan E.M. Houben wrote:

sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et linguistique, la
science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de la
richesse qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ...
(= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity,
science and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the richness
which has been traditionally theirs ...)

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk@gmail.com
mailto:wujastyk@gmail.com> wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com
 <mailto:jemhouben@gmail.com>> wrote:

     Dear All,
     The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École
     Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
     This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological"
     but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et
     philologiques or Sciences religieuses *could* in theory
     accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or
     buddhological applications.
     Please explore at
     https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021
     <https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021>
     A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.


 "of course"?  No, this is not obvious or normal.  Many countries
 hire professors on the understanding that if they don't know the
 indigenous language they will commit to learning it within the first
 two years of tenure.  As far as I am aware, that is normal
 international practice.

 Best,
 Dominik

--

Jan E.M. Houben

Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology

/Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite/

École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)

/*Sciences historiques et philologiques */

Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)

/johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu mailto:johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu/

/https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben/

/https://www.classicalindia.info/ https://www.classicalindia.info

LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- /L'Inde Classique/augmentée: construction,
transmission

et transformations d'un savoir scientifique


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«Canada is also home to many indigenous languages. Taken together, these are spoken by less than one percent of the population. About 0.6% Canadians (or 200,725 people) report an Indigenous language as their mother tongue» https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Canada Languages of Canada From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia On 18/02/2021 23:53, Jan E.M. Houben wrote: > sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et linguistique, la > science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de la > richesse qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ... > (= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity, > science and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the richness > which has been traditionally theirs ...) > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk@gmail.com > <mailto:wujastyk@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com > <mailto:jemhouben@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Dear All, > The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École > Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. > This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" > but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et > philologiques or Sciences religieuses *could* in theory > accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or > buddhological applications. > Please explore at > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 > <https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021> > A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. > > > "of course"?  No, this is not obvious or normal.  Many countries > hire professors on the understanding that if they don't know the > indigenous language they will commit to learning it within the first > two years of tenure.  As far as I am aware, that is normal > international practice. > > Best, > Dominik > > > > -- > > *Jan E.M. Houben* > > Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > /Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite/ > > École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) > > /*Sciences historiques et philologiques */ > > Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) > > /johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu <mailto:johannes.houben@ephe.psl.eu>/ > > /https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > <https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben>/ > > /https://www.classicalindia.info/ <https://www.classicalindia.info> > > LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- /L'Inde Classique/augmentée: construction, > transmission > > et transformations d'un savoir scientifique > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) >
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jmdelire
Fri, Feb 19, 2021 8:53 AM

Having myself French as mother language, I always had the feeling that
the education system in France is not particularly open to non French
students or teachers. Of course, it is different in the world of
research.
Just an example : we have in Belgium thousands of French students in our
Universities or Hautes Ecoles, because our education system is quite
open, while it is particularly difficult for a Belgian to study in
France.

Jean Michel

Le 18.02.2021 23:53, Jan E.M. Houben a écrit :

sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et linguistique, la
science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de la
richesse qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ...

(= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity,
science and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the richness
which has been traditionally theirs ...)

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk wujastyk@gmail.com
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben jemhouben@gmail.com
wrote:

Dear All,
The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École
Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological"
but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et
philologiques or Sciences religieuses could in theory
accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or buddhological
applications.
Please explore at

https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021

[1]

A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. 

"of course"?  No, this is not obvious or normal.  Many countries
hire professors on the understanding that if they don't know the
indigenous language they will commit to learning it within the first
two years of tenure.  As far as I am aware, that is normal
international practice.   

Best,
Dominik

--

JAN E.M. HOUBEN

Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology

Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite

École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)

_SCIENCES HISTORIQUES ET PHILOLOGIQUES _

Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)

johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu

https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben [2]

https://www.classicalindia.info [3]

LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée: construction,
transmission 

et transformations d'un savoir scientifique

Links:

[1]
https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021
[2] https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
[3] https://www.classicalindia.info


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Having myself French as mother language, I always had the feeling that the education system in France is not particularly open to non French students or teachers. Of course, it is different in the world of research. Just an example : we have in Belgium thousands of French students in our Universities or Hautes Ecoles, because our education system is quite open, while it is particularly difficult for a Belgian to study in France. Jean Michel Le 18.02.2021 23:53, Jan E.M. Houben a écrit : > sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et linguistique, la > science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de la > richesse qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ... > > (= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity, > science and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the richness > which has been traditionally theirs ...) > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear All, >>> The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École >>> Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. >>> This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" >>> but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et >>> philologiques or Sciences religieuses *could* in theory >>> accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or buddhological >>> applications. >>> Please explore at >>> >> > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 >>> [1] >>> >>> A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.  >> >> "of course"?  No, this is not obvious or normal.  Many countries >> hire professors on the understanding that if they don't know the >> indigenous language they will commit to learning it within the first >> two years of tenure.  As far as I am aware, that is normal >> international practice.    >> >> Best, >> Dominik > > -- > > JAN E.M. HOUBEN > > Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > _Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite_ > > École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) > > _SCIENCES HISTORIQUES ET PHILOLOGIQUES _ > > Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) > > _johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu_ > > _https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben [2]_ > > _https://www.classicalindia.info_ [3] > > LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- _L'Inde Classique_ augmentée: construction, > transmission  > > et transformations d'un savoir scientifique > > Links: > ------ > [1] > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 > [2] https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > [3] https://www.classicalindia.info > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe)
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Jonathan Silk
Fri, Feb 19, 2021 9:05 AM

It seems like perhaps it is possible that Jan has not quite addressed
Dominik's point: I did not read him as rejecting the use of French, only
the condition that fluency is a requirement for application.

For instance, although one might expect a Spanish or Italian speaker to be
able to ramp up to working fluency in two years, this seems to be ruled
out. NB: As far as I know, the requirement for fluency in German in German
and Austrian universities, and in Dutch here in the Netherlands, is
normally specified as "within two years," and at least it used to be the
case that the university provided support for language training.

Jan, himself Dutch, is surely aware that most people in the world were not
able to benefit from the excellent gymnasium training he received in which
language acquisition was strongly present (and a further note: this is
increasingly not the case even in the top gynmasia here, where so-called
beta tracks [natural sciences] have largely taken over, for completely
understandable reasons.)

So what we seem to come down to is an implicit interest in preventing
non-French scholars from even applying...(which Dominik was of course too
polite to say in so many words)

Jonathan

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 9:54 AM jmdelire jmdelire@ulb.ac.be wrote:

Having myself French as mother language, I always had the feeling that
the education system in France is not particularly open to non French
students or teachers. Of course, it is different in the world of
research.
Just an example : we have in Belgium thousands of French students in our
Universities or Hautes Ecoles, because our education system is quite
open, while it is particularly difficult for a Belgian to study in
France.

Jean Michel

Le 18.02.2021 23:53, Jan E.M. Houben a écrit :

sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et linguistique, la
science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de la
richesse qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ...

(= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity,
science and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the richness
which has been traditionally theirs ...)

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk wujastyk@gmail.com
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben jemhouben@gmail.com
wrote:

Dear All,
The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École
Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological"
but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et
philologiques or Sciences religieuses could in theory
accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or buddhological
applications.
Please explore at

[1]

A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.

"of course"?  No, this is not obvious or normal.  Many countries
hire professors on the understanding that if they don't know the
indigenous language they will commit to learning it within the first
two years of tenure.  As far as I am aware, that is normal
international practice.

Best,
Dominik

--

JAN E.M. HOUBEN

Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology

Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite

École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres)

_SCIENCES HISTORIQUES ET PHILOLOGIQUES _

Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)

johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu

https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben [2]

https://www.classicalindia.info [3]

LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée: construction,
transmission

et transformations d'un savoir scientifique

Links:

[1]

[2] https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben
[3] https://www.classicalindia.info


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2311 BZ Leiden
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It seems like perhaps it is possible that Jan has not quite addressed Dominik's point: I did not read him as rejecting the use of French, only the condition that fluency is a requirement *for application*. For instance, although one might expect a Spanish or Italian speaker to be able to ramp up to working fluency in two years, this seems to be ruled out. NB: As far as I know, the requirement for fluency in German in German and Austrian universities, and in Dutch here in the Netherlands, is normally specified as "within two years," and at least it used to be the case that the university provided support for language training. Jan, himself Dutch, is surely aware that most people in the world were not able to benefit from the excellent gymnasium training he received in which language acquisition was strongly present (and a further note: this is increasingly not the case even in the top gynmasia here, where so-called beta tracks [natural sciences] have largely taken over, for completely understandable reasons.) So what we seem to come down to is an implicit interest in preventing non-French scholars from even applying...(which Dominik was of course too polite to say in so many words) Jonathan On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 9:54 AM jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > Having myself French as mother language, I always had the feeling that > the education system in France is not particularly open to non French > students or teachers. Of course, it is different in the world of > research. > Just an example : we have in Belgium thousands of French students in our > Universities or Hautes Ecoles, because our education system is quite > open, while it is particularly difficult for a Belgian to study in > France. > > Jean Michel > > > Le 18.02.2021 23:53, Jan E.M. Houben a écrit : > > sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et linguistique, la > > science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de la > > richesse qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ... > > > > (= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity, > > science and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the richness > > which has been traditionally theirs ...) > > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk <wujastyk@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Dear All, > >>> The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the École > >>> Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. > >>> This time, none of the open positions are directly "indological" > >>> but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et > >>> philologiques or Sciences religieuses *could* in theory > >>> accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or buddhological > >>> applications. > >>> Please explore at > >>> > >> > > > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 > >>> [1] > >>> > >>> A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. > >> > >> "of course"? No, this is not obvious or normal. Many countries > >> hire professors on the understanding that if they don't know the > >> indigenous language they will commit to learning it within the first > >> two years of tenure. As far as I am aware, that is normal > >> international practice. > >> > >> Best, > >> Dominik > > > > -- > > > > JAN E.M. HOUBEN > > > > Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and Philology > > > > _Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite_ > > > > École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et Lettres) > > > > _SCIENCES HISTORIQUES ET PHILOLOGIQUES _ > > > > Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) > > > > _johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu_ > > > > _https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben [2]_ > > > > _https://www.classicalindia.info_ [3] > > > > LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- _L'Inde Classique_ augmentée: construction, > > transmission > > > > et transformations d'un savoir scientifique > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] > > > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 > > [2] https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben > > [3] https://www.classicalindia.info > > > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > committee) > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > > or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) -- J. 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J
jmdelire
Fri, Feb 19, 2021 9:43 AM

Another example, which perhaps is not to be generalized : a year ago, I
was informed that a position as Professor of History of mathematics
would be opened at the University of Wuppertal (Germany). I went into
contact by email with two professors there, and all our exchanges were
in English. I was told that my CV was perfect for the position, which
implies the training of future math teachers. But, when I asked if I
could teach in English for a year or two (before becoming able to do it
in German, a language of which I have a passive knowledge), it was
answered that this would not be possible. I applied nonetheless, but
received no invitation to an interview, probably due to the pandemy.

Jean Michel

Le 19.02.2021 10:05, Jonathan Silk a écrit :

It seems like perhaps it is possible that Jan has not quite addressed
Dominik's point: I did not read him as rejecting the use of French,
only the condition that fluency is a requirement for application.

For instance, although one might expect a Spanish or Italian speaker
to be able to ramp up to working fluency in two years, this seems to
be ruled out. NB: As far as I know, the requirement for fluency in
German in German and Austrian universities, and in Dutch here in the
Netherlands, is normally specified as "within two years," and at least
it used to be the case that the university provided support for
language training.

Jan, himself Dutch, is surely aware that most people in the world were
not able to benefit from the excellent gymnasium training he received
in which language acquisition was strongly present (and a further
note: this is increasingly not the case even in the top gynmasia here,
where so-called beta tracks [natural sciences] have largely taken
over, for completely understandable reasons.)

So what we seem to come down to is an implicit interest in preventing
non-French scholars from even applying...(which Dominik was of course
too polite to say in so many words)

Jonathan

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 9:54 AM jmdelire jmdelire@ulb.ac.be wrote:

Having myself French as mother language, I always had the feeling
that
the education system in France is not particularly open to non
French
students or teachers. Of course, it is different in the world of
research.
Just an example : we have in Belgium thousands of French students
in our
Universities or Hautes Ecoles, because our education system is
quite
open, while it is particularly difficult for a Belgian to study in
France.

Jean Michel

Le 18.02.2021 23:53, Jan E.M. Houben a écrit :

sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et
linguistique, la
science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de
la
richesse qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ...

(= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity,
science and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the
richness
which has been traditionally theirs ...)

On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk
wujastyk@gmail.com
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben
jemhouben@gmail.com
wrote:

Dear All,
The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the
École
Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open.
This time, none of the open positions are directly
"indological"
but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et
philologiques or Sciences religieuses could in theory
accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or
buddhological
applications.
Please explore at

https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021

[1]

[1]

A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite. 

"of course"?  No, this is not obvious or normal.  Many
countries
hire professors on the understanding that if they don't know the
indigenous language they will commit to learning it within the
first
two years of tenure.  As far as I am aware, that is normal
international practice.   

Best,
Dominik

--

JAN E.M. HOUBEN

Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and
Philology

Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite

École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et
Lettres)

_SCIENCES HISTORIQUES ET PHILOLOGIQUES _

Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120)

johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu

https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben [2] [2]

https://www.classicalindia.info [3] [3]

LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- L'Inde Classique augmentée:
construction,
transmission 

et transformations d'un savoir scientifique

Links:

[1]

https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021

[1]

[2] https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben [2]
[3] https://www.classicalindia.info [4]


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Another example, which perhaps is not to be generalized : a year ago, I was informed that a position as Professor of History of mathematics would be opened at the University of Wuppertal (Germany). I went into contact by email with two professors there, and all our exchanges were in English. I was told that my CV was perfect for the position, which implies the training of future math teachers. But, when I asked if I could teach in English for a year or two (before becoming able to do it in German, a language of which I have a passive knowledge), it was answered that this would not be possible. I applied nonetheless, but received no invitation to an interview, probably due to the pandemy. Jean Michel Le 19.02.2021 10:05, Jonathan Silk a écrit : > It seems like perhaps it is possible that Jan has not quite addressed > Dominik's point: I did not read him as rejecting the use of French, > only the condition that fluency is a requirement _for application_. > > For instance, although one might expect a Spanish or Italian speaker > to be able to ramp up to working fluency in two years, this seems to > be ruled out. NB: As far as I know, the requirement for fluency in > German in German and Austrian universities, and in Dutch here in the > Netherlands, is normally specified as "within two years," and at least > it used to be the case that the university provided support for > language training. > > Jan, himself Dutch, is surely aware that most people in the world were > not able to benefit from the excellent gymnasium training he received > in which language acquisition was strongly present (and a further > note: this is increasingly not the case even in the top gynmasia here, > where so-called beta tracks [natural sciences] have largely taken > over, for completely understandable reasons.) > > So what we seem to come down to is an implicit interest in preventing > non-French scholars from even applying...(which Dominik was of course > too polite to say in so many words) > > Jonathan > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 9:54 AM jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > >> Having myself French as mother language, I always had the feeling >> that >> the education system in France is not particularly open to non >> French >> students or teachers. Of course, it is different in the world of >> research. >> Just an example : we have in Belgium thousands of French students >> in our >> Universities or Hautes Ecoles, because our education system is >> quite >> open, while it is particularly difficult for a Belgian to study in >> France. >> >> Jean Michel >> >> Le 18.02.2021 23:53, Jan E.M. Houben a écrit : >>> sans accepter la diversité régionale, culturelle et >> linguistique, la >>> science et l'érudition perdraient pourtant une grande partie de >> la >>> richesse qui leur appartenait traditionnellement ... >>> >>> (= without accepting regional, cultural and linguistic diversity, >>> science and scholarship would nevertheless lose much of the >> richness >>> which has been traditionally theirs ...) >>> >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:54, Dominik Wujastyk >> <wujastyk@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 04:49, Jan E.M. Houben >> <jemhouben@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> The professor-researcher recruitment campaign 2021 at the >> École >>>>> Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE) is open. >>>>> This time, none of the open positions are directly >> "indological" >>>>> but some of the positions in Sciences historiques et >>>>> philologiques or Sciences religieuses *could* in theory >>>>> accommodate indological (indological-linguistic) or >> buddhological >>>>> applications. >>>>> Please explore at >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 >> [1] >>>>> [1] >>>>> >>>>> A good active mastery of French is of course a prerequisite.  >>>> >>>> "of course"?  No, this is not obvious or normal.  Many >> countries >>>> hire professors on the understanding that if they don't know the >>>> indigenous language they will commit to learning it within the >> first >>>> two years of tenure.  As far as I am aware, that is normal >>>> international practice.    >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Dominik >>> >>> -- >>> >>> JAN E.M. HOUBEN >>> >>> Directeur d'Études, Professor of South Asian History and >> Philology >>> >>> _Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite_ >>> >>> École Pratique des Hautes Études (EPHE, Paris Sciences et >> Lettres) >>> >>> _SCIENCES HISTORIQUES ET PHILOLOGIQUES _ >>> >>> Groupe de recherches en études indiennes (EA 2120) >>> >>> _johannes.houben [at] ephe.psl.eu_ >>> >>> _https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben [2] [2]_ >>> >>> _https://www.classicalindia.info_ [3] [3] >>> >>> LabEx Hastec OS 2021 -- _L'Inde Classique_ augmentée: >> construction, >>> transmission  >>> >>> et transformations d'un savoir scientifique >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] >>> >> > https://www.ephe.psl.eu/actualites/recrutement-des-seignants-chercheurs-2021 >> [1] >>> [2] https://ephe-sorbonne.academia.edu/JanEMHouben [2] >>> [3] https://www.classicalindia.info [4] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info >>> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info >>> indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's >> managing >>> committee) >>> http://listinfo.indology.info [5] (where you can change your list >> options >>> or unsubscribe) >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info >> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info >> indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info [5] (where you can change your list >> options or unsubscribe) > > -- > > J. 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