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N
NK
Sat, Feb 13, 2021 3:47 PM

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya Performance
Committee, 1955 .
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.

With thanks and best wishes,
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva

Dear colleagues, Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee manual: *The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice*. Poona: Vājapeya Performance Committee, 1955 . And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and 13-page unpublished typescript "*Vajapeya: English commentary*" (1956) accompanying the film. With thanks and best wishes, Yours, Natalia Korneeva
J
jmdelire
Sat, Feb 13, 2021 4:18 PM

Dear friends,

I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items

Best regards,

Jean Michel Delire

Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit :

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee
manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya
Performance Committee, 1955 . 
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and 
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.

With thanks and best wishes, 
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva


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Dear friends, I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items Best regards, Jean Michel Delire Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit : > Dear colleagues, > Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee > manual: > _The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice_. Poona: Vājapeya > Performance Committee, 1955 .  > And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and  > 13-page unpublished  typescript "_Vajapeya: English commentary_" > (1956)  accompanying the film. > > With thanks and best wishes,  > Yours, > Natalia Korneeva > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe)
DM
Dean Michael Anderson
Sat, Feb 13, 2021 4:23 PM

I'm also interested.
Dean

On Saturday, February 13, 2021, 9:48:30 PM GMT+5:30, jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote:  

Dear friends,

I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items

Best regards,

Jean Michel Delire

Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit :

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee
manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya
Performance Committee, 1955 . 
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and 
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.

With thanks and best wishes, 
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva


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I'm also interested. Dean On Saturday, February 13, 2021, 9:48:30 PM GMT+5:30, jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote: Dear friends, I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items Best regards, Jean Michel Delire Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit : > Dear colleagues, > Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee > manual: > _The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice_. Poona: Vājapeya > Performance Committee, 1955 .  > And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and  > 13-page unpublished  typescript "_Vajapeya: English commentary_" > (1956)  accompanying the film. > > With thanks and best wishes,  > Yours, > Natalia Korneeva > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe)
LB
Lauren Bausch
Sat, Feb 13, 2021 6:09 PM

Hi Natalia,

I am interested too and am glad that you are working on the Vājapeya.

Best wishes,
Lauren

Lauren Bausch
Assistant Professor
Dharma Realm Buddhist University

"Concepts are really monsters that are reborn from their fragments."
--Deleuze and Guattari, *What is Philosophy, *p. 140.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 8:24 AM Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

I'm also interested.

Dean

On Saturday, February 13, 2021, 9:48:30 PM GMT+5:30, jmdelire <
jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

Dear friends,

I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items

Best regards,

Jean Michel Delire

Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit :

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee
manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya
Performance Committee, 1955 .
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.

With thanks and best wishes,
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva


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Hi Natalia, I am interested too and am glad that you are working on the Vājapeya. Best wishes, Lauren Lauren Bausch Assistant Professor Dharma Realm Buddhist University "Concepts are really monsters that are reborn from their fragments." --Deleuze and Guattari, *What is Philosophy, *p. 140. On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 8:24 AM Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY < indology@list.indology.info> wrote: > I'm also interested. > > Dean > > On Saturday, February 13, 2021, 9:48:30 PM GMT+5:30, jmdelire < > jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items > > Best regards, > > Jean Michel Delire > > > Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit : > > Dear colleagues, > > Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee > > manual: > > _The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice_. Poona: Vājapeya > > Performance Committee, 1955 . > > And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and > > 13-page unpublished typescript "_Vajapeya: English commentary_" > > (1956) accompanying the film. > > > > With thanks and best wishes, > > Yours, > > Natalia Korneeva > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > > committee) > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > > or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe)
AH
Alfred Hiltebeitel
Sat, Feb 13, 2021 6:25 PM

I too would like t see this.  Alf
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:18 AM, jmdelire jmdelire@ulb.ac.be wrote:

Dear friends,

I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items

Best regards,

Jean Michel Delire

Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit :

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee
manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya
Performance Committee, 1955 .
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.
With thanks and best wishes,
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva


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I too would like t see this. Alf Sent from my iPad > On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:18 AM, jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items > > Best regards, > > Jean Michel Delire > > > Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit : >> Dear colleagues, >> Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee >> manual: >> _The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice_. Poona: Vājapeya >> Performance Committee, 1955 . >> And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and >> 13-page unpublished typescript "_Vajapeya: English commentary_" >> (1956) accompanying the film. >> With thanks and best wishes, >> Yours, >> Natalia Korneeva >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info >> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info >> indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >> or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe)
MD
Madhav Deshpande
Sat, Feb 13, 2021 6:45 PM

Dear All,

 I have the 1955 booklet "The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice"

published by the Vajapeya Performance Committee, Poona.  I will have to
scan it and make it available. Give me some time.  There was a film about
this sacrifice that was distributed by the Vaidika Samshodhan Mandal, Pune,
and I had bought a video cassette copy of it many years ago. I will look
for it.  Best,

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 7:48 AM NK natankor@gmail.com wrote:

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya
Performance Committee, 1955 .
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.

With thanks and best wishes,
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva


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Dear All, I have the 1955 booklet "The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice" published by the Vajapeya Performance Committee, Poona. I will have to scan it and make it available. Give me some time. There was a film about this sacrifice that was distributed by the Vaidika Samshodhan Mandal, Pune, and I had bought a video cassette copy of it many years ago. I will look for it. Best, Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 7:48 AM NK <natankor@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee manual: > *The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice*. Poona: Vājapeya > Performance Committee, 1955 . > And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and > 13-page unpublished typescript "*Vajapeya: English commentary*" > (1956) accompanying the film. > > With thanks and best wishes, > Yours, > Natalia Korneeva > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe)
HT
Herman Tull
Sat, Feb 13, 2021 6:59 PM

Are the materials Madhav cites the same as the Van Buitenen materials?

David Knipe's book, Vedic Voices: Intimate Narratives of a Living Andhra
Tradition, has an entry in the bibliography for Van Buitenen's 1956, 13-pg,
unpublished typescript that accompanies the film. (Perhaps he has the
typescript in his possession.)Also, the entry for Van Buitenen's papers,
held at the UC library, suggests that there are at least field notes to the
film in their collection (but perhaps not the actual typescript that
accompanied the film).
https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/scrc/findingaids/view.php?eadid=ICU.SPCL.BUITENEN#idp148150056

A 1977 multi-authored document written by Knipe, Morgan, Dell, McDermott,
and Smith, "Focus on Hindusim: A-V Resources for Teaching Religion,"
indicates that even in 1977, the film was no longer to be found.

This was brought up years ago in the Indology list. In 2010, Jarrod
Whitaker sent out the following:

Fri Nov 12 08:43:07 EST 2010

Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy of the film: Atha
Vajapeyah Somayagah: The Vajapeya Sacrifice produced by J.A.B. van
Buitenen, 1955. My inter-library loan people sent me this message: "We
have exhausted all possible ILL sources.
There are no libraries that own this item that are ILL suppliers.
Additionally, I have conducted online research and have been unable to
locate the film as cited."

Herman Tull

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:25 PM Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

I too would like t see this.  Alf
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:18 AM, jmdelire jmdelire@ulb.ac.be wrote:

Dear friends,

I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items

Best regards,

Jean Michel Delire

Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit :

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee
manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya
Performance Committee, 1955 .
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.
With thanks and best wishes,
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva


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Are the materials Madhav cites the same as the Van Buitenen materials? David Knipe's book, Vedic Voices: Intimate Narratives of a Living Andhra Tradition, has an entry in the bibliography for Van Buitenen's 1956, 13-pg, unpublished typescript that accompanies the film. (Perhaps he has the typescript in his possession.)Also, the entry for Van Buitenen's papers, held at the UC library, suggests that there are at least field notes to the film in their collection (but perhaps not the actual typescript that accompanied the film). https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/scrc/findingaids/view.php?eadid=ICU.SPCL.BUITENEN#idp148150056 A 1977 multi-authored document written by Knipe, Morgan, Dell, McDermott, and Smith, "Focus on Hindusim: A-V Resources for Teaching Religion," indicates that even in 1977, the film was no longer to be found. This was brought up years ago in the Indology list. In 2010, Jarrod Whitaker sent out the following: *Fri Nov 12 08:43:07 EST 2010* Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy of the film: Atha Vajapeyah Somayagah: The Vajapeya Sacrifice produced by J.A.B. van Buitenen, 1955. My inter-library loan people sent me this message: "We have exhausted all possible ILL sources. There are no libraries that own this item that are ILL suppliers. Additionally, I have conducted online research and have been unable to locate the film as cited." Herman Tull On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:25 PM Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY < indology@list.indology.info> wrote: > > I too would like t see this. Alf > Sent from my iPad > > > On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:18 AM, jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items > > > > Best regards, > > > > Jean Michel Delire > > > > > > Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit : > >> Dear colleagues, > >> Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee > >> manual: > >> _The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice_. Poona: Vājapeya > >> Performance Committee, 1955 . > >> And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and > >> 13-page unpublished typescript "_Vajapeya: English commentary_" > >> (1956) accompanying the film. > >> With thanks and best wishes, > >> Yours, > >> Natalia Korneeva > >> _______________________________________________ > >> INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > >> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > >> indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > >> or unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options > or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe)
MD
Madhav Deshpande
Sat, Feb 13, 2021 7:27 PM

What I have is not what was produced by Van Buitenen, but by the Vājapeya
Performance Committee in Poona.

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:59 AM Herman Tull hermantull@gmail.com wrote:

Are the materials Madhav cites the same as the Van Buitenen materials?

David Knipe's book, Vedic Voices: Intimate Narratives of a Living Andhra
Tradition, has an entry in the bibliography for Van Buitenen's 1956, 13-pg,
unpublished typescript that accompanies the film. (Perhaps he has the
typescript in his possession.)Also, the entry for Van Buitenen's papers,
held at the UC library, suggests that there are at least field notes to the
film in their collection (but perhaps not the actual typescript that
accompanied the film).

https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/scrc/findingaids/view.php?eadid=ICU.SPCL.BUITENEN#idp148150056

A 1977 multi-authored document written by Knipe, Morgan, Dell, McDermott,
and Smith, "Focus on Hindusim: A-V Resources for Teaching Religion,"
indicates that even in 1977, the film was no longer to be found.

This was brought up years ago in the Indology list. In 2010, Jarrod
Whitaker sent out the following:

Fri Nov 12 08:43:07 EST 2010

Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy of the film: Atha Vajapeyah Somayagah: The Vajapeya Sacrifice produced by J.A.B. van Buitenen, 1955. My inter-library loan people sent me this message: "We have exhausted all possible ILL sources.
There are no libraries that own this item that are ILL suppliers. Additionally, I have conducted online research and have been unable to locate the film as cited."

Herman Tull

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:25 PM Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

I too would like t see this.  Alf
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:18 AM, jmdelire jmdelire@ulb.ac.be wrote:

Dear friends,

I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items

Best regards,

Jean Michel Delire

Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit :

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee
manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya
Performance Committee, 1955 .
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.
With thanks and best wishes,
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva


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What I have is not what was produced by Van Buitenen, but by the Vājapeya Performance Committee in Poona. Madhav M. Deshpande Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:59 AM Herman Tull <hermantull@gmail.com> wrote: > Are the materials Madhav cites the same as the Van Buitenen materials? > > David Knipe's book, Vedic Voices: Intimate Narratives of a Living Andhra > Tradition, has an entry in the bibliography for Van Buitenen's 1956, 13-pg, > unpublished typescript that accompanies the film. (Perhaps he has the > typescript in his possession.)Also, the entry for Van Buitenen's papers, > held at the UC library, suggests that there are at least field notes to the > film in their collection (but perhaps not the actual typescript that > accompanied the film). > > https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/scrc/findingaids/view.php?eadid=ICU.SPCL.BUITENEN#idp148150056 > > A 1977 multi-authored document written by Knipe, Morgan, Dell, McDermott, > and Smith, "Focus on Hindusim: A-V Resources for Teaching Religion," > indicates that even in 1977, the film was no longer to be found. > > This was brought up years ago in the Indology list. In 2010, Jarrod > Whitaker sent out the following: > > *Fri Nov 12 08:43:07 EST 2010* > > Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy of the film: Atha Vajapeyah Somayagah: The Vajapeya Sacrifice produced by J.A.B. van Buitenen, 1955. My inter-library loan people sent me this message: "We have exhausted all possible ILL sources. > There are no libraries that own this item that are ILL suppliers. Additionally, I have conducted online research and have been unable to locate the film as cited." > > Herman Tull > > > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:25 PM Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY < > indology@list.indology.info> wrote: > >> >> I too would like t see this. Alf >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:18 AM, jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> > >> > Dear friends, >> > >> > I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Jean Michel Delire >> > >> > >> > Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit : >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee >> >> manual: >> >> _The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice_. Poona: Vājapeya >> >> Performance Committee, 1955 . >> >> And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and >> >> 13-page unpublished typescript "_Vajapeya: English commentary_" >> >> (1956) accompanying the film. >> >> With thanks and best wishes, >> >> Yours, >> >> Natalia Korneeva >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info >> >> indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >> >> or unsubscribe) >> > _______________________________________________ >> > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info >> > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info >> > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options >> or unsubscribe) >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info >> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info >> indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing >> committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or >> unsubscribe) > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe)
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Witzel, Michael
Sat, Feb 13, 2021 7:37 PM

To all Vajapeyins:

I have an electronic copy of the Poona performance, made a few years ago from a VCR cassette tape.
But it is around 650 MB, so I would have to send it to interested colleagues via WETRANSFER, so that you can download it.

I also have a photocopy of the Vajapeya booklet, but it is in my (closed) office and it would  have to be scanned.
Perhaps someone already has a scanned copy …

So please let me know. After a day or two I will send the film to interested parties.

There also is a film of a Pravargya, done at Delhi, maybe a decade later. I think Jan Houben has it (as do I).

Finally there are multiple snippets of the Pravargya as part of the 2011 Agnicayana held at Panjal, Kerala. Some are in Youtube, if you look for Atiratra  (Athiraathra) [NB not the Indian cinema movie!).

Best wishes,

Michael

On Feb 13, 2021, at 1:59 PM, Herman Tull <hermantull@gmail.commailto:hermantull@gmail.com> wrote:

Are the materials Madhav cites the same as the Van Buitenen materials?

David Knipe's book, Vedic Voices: Intimate Narratives of a Living Andhra Tradition, has an entry in the bibliography for Van Buitenen's 1956, 13-pg, unpublished typescript that accompanies the film. (Perhaps he has the typescript in his possession.)Also, the entry for Van Buitenen's papers, held at the UC library, suggests that there are at least field notes to the film in their collection (but perhaps not the actual typescript that accompanied the film).
https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/scrc/findingaids/view.php?eadid=ICU.SPCL.BUITENEN#idp148150056https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.lib.uchicago.edu_e_scrc_findingaids_view.php-3Feadid-3DICU.SPCL.BUITENEN-23idp148150056&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=tFXzIbyKS2C0TpVqKsMrj46qwsAermBN5wzaDe51So0&m=deOF1Qh5fVAY23IiF7EvjU02DIh7Yd-cAK72Z-Nn_2Y&s=2wEJld-rmgl95FQ78FdC2iS2x2UQ8bW7agvUusA-lsE&e=

A 1977 multi-authored document written by Knipe, Morgan, Dell, McDermott, and Smith, "Focus on Hindusim: A-V Resources for Teaching Religion," indicates that even in 1977, the film was no longer to be found.

This was brought up years ago in the Indology list. In 2010, Jarrod Whitaker sent out the following:

Fri Nov 12 08:43:07 EST 2010

Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy of the film: Atha Vajapeyah Somayagah: The Vajapeya Sacrifice produced by J.A.B. van Buitenen, 1955. My inter-library loan people sent me this message: "We have exhausted all possible ILL sources.
There are no libraries that own this item that are ILL suppliers. Additionally, I have conducted online research and have been unable to locate the film as cited."

Herman Tull

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:25 PM Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.infomailto:indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

I too would like t see this.  Alf
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:18 AM, jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.bemailto:jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

Dear friends,

I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items

Best regards,

Jean Michel Delire

Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit :

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee
manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya
Performance Committee, 1955 .
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.
With thanks and best wishes,
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva


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To all Vajapeyins: I have an electronic copy of the Poona performance, made a few years ago from a VCR cassette tape. But it is around 650 MB, so I would have to send it to interested colleagues via WETRANSFER, so that you can download it. I also have a photocopy of the Vajapeya booklet, but it is in my (closed) office and it would have to be scanned. Perhaps someone already has a scanned copy … So please let me know. After a day or two I will send the film to interested parties. There also is a film of a Pravargya, done at Delhi, maybe a decade later. I think Jan Houben has it (as do I). Finally there are multiple snippets of the Pravargya as part of the 2011 Agnicayana held at Panjal, Kerala. Some are in Youtube, if you look for Atiratra (Athiraathra) [NB not the Indian cinema movie!). Best wishes, Michael On Feb 13, 2021, at 1:59 PM, Herman Tull <hermantull@gmail.com<mailto:hermantull@gmail.com>> wrote: Are the materials Madhav cites the same as the Van Buitenen materials? David Knipe's book, Vedic Voices: Intimate Narratives of a Living Andhra Tradition, has an entry in the bibliography for Van Buitenen's 1956, 13-pg, unpublished typescript that accompanies the film. (Perhaps he has the typescript in his possession.)Also, the entry for Van Buitenen's papers, held at the UC library, suggests that there are at least field notes to the film in their collection (but perhaps not the actual typescript that accompanied the film). https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/scrc/findingaids/view.php?eadid=ICU.SPCL.BUITENEN#idp148150056<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.lib.uchicago.edu_e_scrc_findingaids_view.php-3Feadid-3DICU.SPCL.BUITENEN-23idp148150056&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=tFXzIbyKS2C0TpVqKsMrj46qwsAermBN5wzaDe51So0&m=deOF1Qh5fVAY23IiF7EvjU02DIh7Yd-cAK72Z-Nn_2Y&s=2wEJld-rmgl95FQ78FdC2iS2x2UQ8bW7agvUusA-lsE&e=> A 1977 multi-authored document written by Knipe, Morgan, Dell, McDermott, and Smith, "Focus on Hindusim: A-V Resources for Teaching Religion," indicates that even in 1977, the film was no longer to be found. This was brought up years ago in the Indology list. In 2010, Jarrod Whitaker sent out the following: Fri Nov 12 08:43:07 EST 2010 Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy of the film: Atha Vajapeyah Somayagah: The Vajapeya Sacrifice produced by J.A.B. van Buitenen, 1955. My inter-library loan people sent me this message: "We have exhausted all possible ILL sources. There are no libraries that own this item that are ILL suppliers. Additionally, I have conducted online research and have been unable to locate the film as cited." Herman Tull On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:25 PM Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote: I too would like t see this. Alf Sent from my iPad > On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:18 AM, jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.be<mailto:jmdelire@ulb.ac.be>> wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items > > Best regards, > > Jean Michel Delire > > > Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit : >> Dear colleagues, >> Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee >> manual: >> _The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice_. Poona: Vājapeya >> Performance Committee, 1955 . >> And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and >> 13-page unpublished typescript "_Vajapeya: English commentary_" >> (1956) accompanying the film. >> With thanks and best wishes, >> Yours, >> Natalia Korneeva >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info> >> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-leave@list.indology.info> >> indology-owner@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-owner@list.indology.info> (messages to the list's managing committee) >> http://listinfo.indology.info<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__listinfo.indology.info&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=tFXzIbyKS2C0TpVqKsMrj46qwsAermBN5wzaDe51So0&m=deOF1Qh5fVAY23IiF7EvjU02DIh7Yd-cAK72Z-Nn_2Y&s=Em97sG1Jd0MEGUoQze-UJUzaLOQqvRN5cQvDKnQFhbA&e=> (where you can change your list options >> or unsubscribe) > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info> > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-leave@list.indology.info> > indology-owner@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-owner@list.indology.info> (messages to the list's managing committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__listinfo.indology.info&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=tFXzIbyKS2C0TpVqKsMrj46qwsAermBN5wzaDe51So0&m=deOF1Qh5fVAY23IiF7EvjU02DIh7Yd-cAK72Z-Nn_2Y&s=Em97sG1Jd0MEGUoQze-UJUzaLOQqvRN5cQvDKnQFhbA&e=> (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-leave@list.indology.info> indology-owner@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-owner@list.indology.info> (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__listinfo.indology.info&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=tFXzIbyKS2C0TpVqKsMrj46qwsAermBN5wzaDe51So0&m=deOF1Qh5fVAY23IiF7EvjU02DIh7Yd-cAK72Z-Nn_2Y&s=Em97sG1Jd0MEGUoQze-UJUzaLOQqvRN5cQvDKnQFhbA&e=> (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe) _______________________________________________ INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info<mailto:indology@list.indology.info> To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-leave@list.indology.info> indology-owner@list.indology.info<mailto:indology-owner@list.indology.info> (messages to the list's managing committee) http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or unsubscribe)
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Harry Spier
Sun, Feb 14, 2021 8:44 PM

Note also that there is a pdf of a manuscript titled
vājapeyahautram from  the manuscript collection of the Sama Diksita family
from Gokarna in the digital library of Muktabodha

https://gokarnacollection.muktabodha.org/TEXTS/SAMBADIKSITA/SAMBADIKSITA-PDF/S0044.pdf
Also, looking at Appendix II of the Vājapeya booklet, among the officiating
priests were members of the Joglekar and Kodlekere families from Gokarna,
whose manuscript collections are also downloadable from the Muktabodha
digital library (though I don't see anything else with Vājapeya in the
titles).
https://gokarnacollection.muktabodha.org/vedic_library.htm

Harry Spier

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:48 AM NK natankor@gmail.com wrote:

Dear colleagues,
Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee manual:
The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice. Poona: Vājapeya
Performance Committee, 1955 .
And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and
13-page unpublished  typescript "Vajapeya: English commentary"
(1956)  accompanying the film.

With thanks and best wishes,
Yours,
Natalia Korneeva


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Note also that there is a pdf of a manuscript titled vājapeyahautram from the manuscript collection of the Sama Diksita family from Gokarna in the digital library of Muktabodha https://gokarnacollection.muktabodha.org/TEXTS/SAMBADIKSITA/SAMBADIKSITA-PDF/S0044.pdf Also, looking at Appendix II of the Vājapeya booklet, among the officiating priests were members of the Joglekar and Kodlekere families from Gokarna, whose manuscript collections are also downloadable from the Muktabodha digital library (though I don't see anything else with Vājapeya in the titles). https://gokarnacollection.muktabodha.org/vedic_library.htm Harry Spier On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:48 AM NK <natankor@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear colleagues, > Would anyone happen to have Vājapeya 1955 Performance Committee manual: > *The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice*. Poona: Vājapeya > Performance Committee, 1955 . > And the film by Dr J.A.B. van Buitenen of the Vājapeya in Poona and > 13-page unpublished typescript "*Vajapeya: English commentary*" > (1956) accompanying the film. > > With thanks and best wishes, > Yours, > Natalia Korneeva > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list -- indology@list.indology.info > To unsubscribe send an email to indology-leave@list.indology.info > indology-owner@list.indology.info (messages to the list's managing > committee) > http://listinfo.indology.info (where you can change your list options or > unsubscribe)