Dear friends,

I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items

Best regards,

Jean Michel Delire

Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit :

I'm also interested.
Dean

On Saturday, February 13, 2021, 9:48:30 PM GMT+5:30, jmdelire <jmdelire@ulb.ac.be> wrote:  

Dear friends,

I am also interested in receiving accesses to these very useful items

Best regards,

Jean Michel Delire

Le 13.02.2021 16:47, NK a écrit :

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Hi Natalia,

I am interested too and am glad that you are working on the Vājapeya.

Best wishes,
Lauren

Lauren Bausch
Assistant Professor
Dharma Realm Buddhist University

"Concepts are really monsters that are reborn from their fragments."
--Deleuze and Guattari, *What is Philosophy, *p. 140.

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 8:24 AM Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY <
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I too would like t see this.  Alf
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Dear All,

 I have the 1955 booklet "The Śrauta Ritual and the Vājapeya Sacrifice"

published by the Vajapeya Performance Committee, Poona.  I will have to
scan it and make it available. Give me some time.  There was a film about
this sacrifice that was distributed by the Vaidika Samshodhan Mandal, Pune,
and I had bought a video cassette copy of it many years ago. I will look
for it.  Best,

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 7:48 AM NK natankor@gmail.com wrote:

Are the materials Madhav cites the same as the Van Buitenen materials?

David Knipe's book, Vedic Voices: Intimate Narratives of a Living Andhra
Tradition, has an entry in the bibliography for Van Buitenen's 1956, 13-pg,
unpublished typescript that accompanies the film. (Perhaps he has the
typescript in his possession.)Also, the entry for Van Buitenen's papers,
held at the UC library, suggests that there are at least field notes to the
film in their collection (but perhaps not the actual typescript that
accompanied the film).
https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/scrc/findingaids/view.php?eadid=ICU.SPCL.BUITENEN#idp148150056

A 1977 multi-authored document written by Knipe, Morgan, Dell, McDermott,
and Smith, "Focus on Hindusim: A-V Resources for Teaching Religion,"
indicates that even in 1977, the film was no longer to be found.

This was brought up years ago in the Indology list. In 2010, Jarrod
Whitaker sent out the following:

Fri Nov 12 08:43:07 EST 2010

Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy of the film: Atha
Vajapeyah Somayagah: The Vajapeya Sacrifice produced by J.A.B. van
Buitenen, 1955. My inter-library loan people sent me this message: "We
have exhausted all possible ILL sources.
There are no libraries that own this item that are ILL suppliers.
Additionally, I have conducted online research and have been unable to
locate the film as cited."

Herman Tull

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:25 PM Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY <
indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

What I have is not what was produced by Van Buitenen, but by the Vājapeya
Performance Committee in Poona.

Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies
Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:59 AM Herman Tull hermantull@gmail.com wrote:

To all Vajapeyins:

I have an electronic copy of the Poona performance, made a few years ago from a VCR cassette tape.
But it is around 650 MB, so I would have to send it to interested colleagues via WETRANSFER, so that you can download it.

I also have a photocopy of the Vajapeya booklet, but it is in my (closed) office and it would  have to be scanned.
Perhaps someone already has a scanned copy …

So please let me know. After a day or two I will send the film to interested parties.

There also is a film of a Pravargya, done at Delhi, maybe a decade later. I think Jan Houben has it (as do I).

Finally there are multiple snippets of the Pravargya as part of the 2011 Agnicayana held at Panjal, Kerala. Some are in Youtube, if you look for Atiratra  (Athiraathra) [NB not the Indian cinema movie!).

Best wishes,

Michael

On Feb 13, 2021, at 1:59 PM, Herman Tull <hermantull@gmail.commailto:hermantull@gmail.com> wrote:

Are the materials Madhav cites the same as the Van Buitenen materials?

David Knipe's book, Vedic Voices: Intimate Narratives of a Living Andhra Tradition, has an entry in the bibliography for Van Buitenen's 1956, 13-pg, unpublished typescript that accompanies the film. (Perhaps he has the typescript in his possession.)Also, the entry for Van Buitenen's papers, held at the UC library, suggests that there are at least field notes to the film in their collection (but perhaps not the actual typescript that accompanied the film).
https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/scrc/findingaids/view.php?eadid=ICU.SPCL.BUITENEN#idp148150056https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.lib.uchicago.edu_e_scrc_findingaids_view.php-3Feadid-3DICU.SPCL.BUITENEN-23idp148150056&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=tFXzIbyKS2C0TpVqKsMrj46qwsAermBN5wzaDe51So0&m=deOF1Qh5fVAY23IiF7EvjU02DIh7Yd-cAK72Z-Nn_2Y&s=2wEJld-rmgl95FQ78FdC2iS2x2UQ8bW7agvUusA-lsE&e=

A 1977 multi-authored document written by Knipe, Morgan, Dell, McDermott, and Smith, "Focus on Hindusim: A-V Resources for Teaching Religion," indicates that even in 1977, the film was no longer to be found.

This was brought up years ago in the Indology list. In 2010, Jarrod Whitaker sent out the following:

Fri Nov 12 08:43:07 EST 2010

Does anyone know how I can get hold of a copy of the film: Atha Vajapeyah Somayagah: The Vajapeya Sacrifice produced by J.A.B. van Buitenen, 1955. My inter-library loan people sent me this message: "We have exhausted all possible ILL sources.
There are no libraries that own this item that are ILL suppliers. Additionally, I have conducted online research and have been unable to locate the film as cited."

Herman Tull

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:25 PM Alfred Hiltebeitel via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.infomailto:indology@list.indology.info> wrote:

I too would like t see this.  Alf
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Note also that there is a pdf of a manuscript titled
vājapeyahautram from  the manuscript collection of the Sama Diksita family
from Gokarna in the digital library of Muktabodha

https://gokarnacollection.muktabodha.org/TEXTS/SAMBADIKSITA/SAMBADIKSITA-PDF/S0044.pdf
Also, looking at Appendix II of the Vājapeya booklet, among the officiating
priests were members of the Joglekar and Kodlekere families from Gokarna,
whose manuscript collections are also downloadable from the Muktabodha
digital library (though I don't see anything else with Vājapeya in the
titles).
https://gokarnacollection.muktabodha.org/vedic_library.htm

Harry Spier

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:48 AM NK natankor@gmail.com wrote: