[INDOLOGY] question about mixed oral/manuscript transmission

Nagaraj Paturi nagarajpaturi at gmail.com
Tue Apr 11 14:33:30 EDT 2017


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The narrative in Sriharsha's Naishadha Kavya has several Telugu folk oral
epic (performance and) textual versions with the name of
Naladamayantikatha.

Apart from the profoundly scholarly (naarikeLapaaka ) Epic poetic
translation by Srinathudu ( the author of Palnati Veeracharitramu ) of
Sanskrit Naishadham, there is a Desi (folkish) translation of the same by
Raghunathanayakudu.

Saarangadharacharitramu is another such narrative popular in the folk oral
epic narrative repertoire, while having classical style epic poetic forms
and verse-theater forms of modern times.

There are more.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:48 PM, George Hart via INDOLOGY <
indology at list.indology.info> wrote:

> One might also mention the Palnāṭi Vīracaritra of Śrīnātha, 15th century.
> This is a written Telugu version of an oral epic studied by Gene Roghair in
> his important book *The Epic of Palnadu: A Study and Translation of
> Palnati Virula Katha, A Telugu Oral Tradition from Andhra Pradesh, India*.
> George
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpaturi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Do you have the reference of an article on the subject, or do you have a
> book that talks about it?
>
> ---- He is asking for articles only.
>
> >Is there in the Indian tradition (Vedic or epic, for example) texts
> transmitted on the one hand in a written form (copies of manuscript in
> manuscript), on the other hand Without written support (a scribe not
> writing a text that he knows by heart)?
>
> ---- Thus he is asking for examples in Vedic epic texts too.
>
> This dual transmission has been there for all the traditional orally
> transmitted texts of Vedas and Veda-related Shastras.
>
> Prof. Blackburn's focus in his villuppāṭṭu analysis, particularly on the
> orality and literacy aspects, is on the influence of the written text on
> the oral performance, particularly on the 'control' of the written text on
> the oral performance of villuppāṭṭu.
>
> The conventional idea in modern studies that non-Sanskrit regional
> language orally transmitted, particularly 'folk' texts did not have their
> parallel written versions. Right from the time of study of villuppāṭṭu by
> Prof. Blackburn, parallel written transmission of 'folk' 'oral' texts in
> regional Indian languages is being paid attention to.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 8:43 PM, George Hart via INDOLOGY <
> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>
>> I think you might find Stuart Blackburn’s book, *Singing of Birth and
>> Death: Texts in Performance*, quite helpful. To look in Sanskrit for
>> this sort of material is not likely to be productive. George Hart
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Arlo Griffiths via INDOLOGY <
>> indology at list.indology.info> wrote:
>>
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> My friend Henri Chambert-Loir, specialist of classical Malay literature,
>> who is currently working again on the Sulalat al-Salatin (a.k.a. Sejarah
>> Melayu, or 'Malay Annals'), has asked me a question that I would like to
>> relay to the learned assembly:
>>
>> ------------
>> Ma question : pour comparaison avec le Sejarah Melayu, existe-t-il dans
>> la tradition indienne (vedique ou epique p.ex.) des textes qui se sont
>> transmis d’une part de facon ecrite (copies de manuscrit en manuscrit),
>> d’autre part sans support ecrit (un scribe mettant pas ecrit un texte qu’il
>> connait par coeur) ? Je pense que cela s’est produit pour le SM : certaines
>> variantes (ex. le deplacement d’episodes) ne peuvent s’expliquer que par un
>> stade de memoire. As-tu la reference d’un article sur le sujet, ou
>> possedes-tu un livre qui en parle ?
>> ------------
>>
>> Would anyone have potentially useful philogogical comparanda in mind, and
>> references (preferably with pdfs) to share that I could transmit to Prof.
>> Chambert-Loir?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Arlo Griffiths
>>
>>
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Nagaraj Paturi

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Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )
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