[INDOLOGY] Indology and plagiarism: specify stance in order to fortify "brand name" (and conclude lengthy threads)
Jan E.M. Houben
jemhouben at gmail.com
Mon Aug 3 14:06:33 EDT 2015
This clarification is indeed welcome.
If it is shared by the listowner and other committee members, Indology's
Scope and Guidelines dating from 10 July 2001 could in the same spirit be
modified: esp. under 2 "Membership": leave out the first two sentences
dealing with "accredited scholars" (MA and PhD degrees typically
"happen off list") and the third one on those having a "scholarly
This further makes the paragraph on "Special exceptions", also under 2,
A minority of the current Indology members could then reflect on a New
International Indology Forum for "accredited scholars" not necessarily in
the unwieldy form of a List but for instance as Bulletin Board, avoiding
unnecessary loops and repetitions.
Incidentally, Dean, could lengthy threads also be a function of the number
of members on vacation or holiday? Mine is now over so I will no longer
"plague" on this topic.
*Jan E.M. HOUBEN*
Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite
*École Pratique des Hautes Études*
*Sciences historiques et philologiques *
54, rue Saint-Jacques
CS 20525 – 75005 Paris
johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr
On 31 July 2015 at 16:13, Audrey Truschke <audrey.truschke at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> I am responding to this thread as the INDOLOGY committee member on duty
> this week.
> The INDOLOGY governing committee moderate discussion on the list, not
> other scholarly activities. Accordingly, alleged plagiarism in scholarship
> concerning South Asia is certainly a welcome topic of civil discussion on
> INDOLOGY. But the governing committee does not claim authority to
> adjudicate or discipline anything that happens off list.
> Audrey Truschke
> Audrey Truschke
> Mellon Postdoctoral Fellow
> Department of Religious Studies
> Stanford University
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> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Jan E.M. Houben <jemhouben at gmail.com>
>> Indology and plagiarism
>> Apart from borderline cases there are also cases of undeniable massive
>> One case was discussed long ago by Roy Andrew Miller (JAOS 115.2 :
>> 343-344), and
>> a new episode in the same case history was discussed eight years later,
>> now twelve years
>> ago, by me (AS/EA 57.1  p 163, author's copy academia.edu/7196478/
>> p 55).
>> From a quick online search I infer that the publication based on massive
>> plagiarizing is apparently still for sale and present in university
>> Some similarities with the current case under discussion, except, I hope,
>> R Diekstra, till 1997 prof of psychology at Univ of Leiden: those who
>> discovered textual borrowings which were not or very incompletely
>> acknowledged were aggressively attacked by adherents of their favourite
>> public intellectual Diekstra, his sources were (page after page) from
>> sources relatively unknown to his target public (dutch readers on
>> psychotherapy), he claimed to be working in haste for a higher aim (helping
>> those needing psychotherapy).
>> This could be a suitable occasion for the Indology List, since 2001 the
>> ONLY ONLINE
>> FORUM IN THE WORLD specializing in academic exchange for bona fide
>> scholars, "east"
>> and "west", in Indology and classical South Asia studies, to give a
>> stronger profile
>> to Indology's "brand name".
>> Would there be any harm if the current dvārapālas of the Indology List
>> "Indology"'s position on plagiarism in the Guidelines, for instance that
>> the hypothetic case of plagiarizing (at least if it is massive?) leads to
>> cancellation of full membership (should have been self-evident but perhaps
>> it is not), and that emphatic encouragement and condoning of plagiarism
>> leads to first a warning next to suspension of full membership?
>> Pro-plagiarists and pro-plagiarism
>> leniency may feel irritated through such explicit stance but 95% others
>> would either welcome it or consider it self-evident.
>> This move could liberate bandwidth of the List for more useful and
>> interesting topics and
>> Jan Houben
>> *Jan E.M. HOUBEN*
>> Directeur d’Études
>> Sources et histoire de la tradition sanskrite
>> *École Pratique des Hautes Études*
>> *Sciences historiques et philologiques *
>> 54, rue Saint-Jacques
>> CS 20525 – 75005 Paris
>> johannes.houben at ephe.sorbonne.fr
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