[INDOLOGY] Query on negation

Sven Sellmer sellmers at gmx.de
Mon May 20 17:13:32 EDT 2013


I would be also glad to receive it.
Many thanks in advance,
Sven

Am 20.05.2013 um 23:11 schrieb Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu>:

> Thank you, Madhav and Birgit. I could not find Lokaprjñā in our library. Does anyone happen to have an e-version of the paper by Brendan Gillon that they can share? Thanks.
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> Patrick
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> On May 20, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Madhav Deshpande wrote:
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>> If we are dealing with accented Sanskrit, then adharma+jña would give us the udātta accent on the final syllable, while a+dharmajña would give us the initial udātta.  But in Sanskrit without accents, we have to rely on the context to make this distinction.  A good case may be adharmacārin that I have seen in a few places, where it indeed means those who behave in unrighteous ways.  
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>> Madhav
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>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Patrick Olivelle <jpo at uts.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
>> Thank you very much, Birgit. This is very illuminating. I will check out this study.
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>> Patrick
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>> On May 20, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Birgit Kellner wrote:
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>> > Brendan Gillon once argued that the distinction between the two types of negation called prasajyapratiṣedha and paryudāsa is precisely the one that accounts for the different interpretations in Patrick Olivelle's example: a syntactic difference in terms of whether the negation has wide scope (prasajyap.) - "not knowing the dharma" - or narrow scope (paryudāsa) - "knowing something that is not dharma". But I can't think of indicators other than context that would allow to determine which interpretation is to be preferred.
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>> > @ARTICLE{Gillon_Brendan_1987,
>> >  author = {Gillon, Brendan S.},
>> >  title = {Two Forms of Negation in Sanskrit: prasajyapratiṣedha and paryudāsapratiṣedha},
>> >  journal = {Lokaprajñā },
>> >  year = {1987},
>> >  volume = {1/1},
>> >  pages = {81-89},
>> >  }
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>> > With best regards,
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>> > Birgit Kellner
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>> > Am 20.05.2013 21:09, schrieb Patrick Olivelle:
>> >> bhoḥ paṇḍitāḥ!!
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>> >> I have a question regarding a negative prefix "a" when used in a compound.
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>> >> For example, at Manu 8.59 we have the compound "adharmajñau", which in my translation I have rendered as "two men ignorant of the Law" taking the negative prefix to apply to the whole compound "dharmajñau". Medhātithi commenting on this verse (and the Smṛticandrikā [Mysore ed. III: 287] cites Medh approvingly) appears to think that these two men were proficient in adharma, that is, in subterfuge (chala). Then the compound would consist of adharma and jña -- adharma being here ways of subverting justice. In the Smṛticandrikā the example given is a man who, knowing that other kinds of evidence is valid only for a year (I am not sure how he gets this??), gets a document written with 10 thousand paṇas, when it should have been just 5 thousand. This is the chala or adharma (ways of getting around legal procedures) in which the man if proficient.
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>> >> This sort of ambiguity must occur also in other similar compounds. Is there a way to detect that? Or is it just a matter of context and interpretation. Have the grammarians talked about this?
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>> >> Thanks.
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>> >> Patrick
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