arlo.griffiths at LET.LEIDENUNIV.NL
Sat Oct 25 08:10:28 EDT 2008
The ritual tradition of the Atharvaveda makes use of a fundamental
trifurcation in all rituals, between
1) an invariable first phase called puurvatantra
2) a variable phase comporting a specific homa
3) an invariable final phase called UTTARATANTRA
See the scheme on pp. VI-VII of Caland's Altindische Zauberritual.
The scheme is already implied in the oldest ritual Suutra of this
tradition, the Kau;sikasuutra, which is likely to be older than the
mentioned medical texts, but in this meaning the word uttaratantra
itself apparently first occurs in a few Atharvavedapari;si.s.tas
(which are very hard to date but almost certainly, for the most part,
too late to be relevant for Stephen Hodge's Buddhist texts).
If you take a representative batch of e-texts from GRETIL, make sure
to include "Kausikapaddhati, by Kesava" in it, and then do a multi-
file search for "ttaratantr", it will become evident how important
this term is in Atharvavedic ritualism (other Atharvavedic paddhati's
give similarly high numbers of occurrences).
On Oct 25, 2008, at 1:30 PM, G.J. Meulenbeld wrote:
> Dear colleague,
> Apart from the Uttaratantra of the Susrutasamhita, a
> Carakottaratantra is known from
> See on it my "A history of Indian medical literature" IA, 99--100.
> Jan Meulenbeld
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Hodge"
> <s.hodge at PADMACHOLING.PLUS.COM>
> To: <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Drum Example
>> Thank you and Jan for the useful reply. I would never have though
>> that Susruta would mention a "remedy" like that. Though, now I
>> think about it, it I should have considered that possibility since
>> this cycle of texts is chock-a-block with teaching examples based
>> on ayurveda -- more so than any other Buddhist material I have
>> seen elsewhere. Indeed, I have wondered whether the target
>> audience was the medical profession.
>> Actually, in connection with this, would you know if the term
>> "uttaratantra" was first used in connection with the Samhita or
>> had it been used previously ? The texts I am dealing with are
>> probably the first Buddhist ones to do so and they should be dated
>> c80 - c120CE.
>> Many thanks,
>> Stephen Hodge
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dominik Wujastyk"
>> <ucgadkw at UCL.AC.UK>
>> To: <INDOLOGY at liverpool.ac.uk>
>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: Drum Example
>> oh, how interesting! This thing about beating smeared drums for
>> occurs in the Susrutasamhita too, in a section of the Kalpasthana on
>> curing poisoning that may affect a population as a whole. The
>> paste is smeared on drums, banners and doorways in the town.
>> I mention this briefly in Roots of Ayurveda, 3rd ed., pp.78--9.
>> Dr Dominik Wujastyk
>> Wellcome Trust Senior Research Fellow
>> University College London
École française d'Extrême-Orient (Jakarta)
Instituut Kern, Universiteit Leiden
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